It would be interesting to know the unknown. That being what post-processing steps were done on these images.
--Bob
tinplater wrote:
Here is a typical example...I have uploaded the entire large file, when viewed full size in download you will see the problem! ISO 160 f1.4 1/2000 with Canon 5DMIII and 35mm 1.4 Canon lens.
Psergel wrote:
I decided to try to duplicate this so.....
Using my Canon 6D which supposedly has very slightly better noise characteristics than the 5D III I took a shot of my car. ISO 160, 1/1600, f/4, 24mm, did an EXTREME crop and set sharpening to 100 in LR.
I end up with the same "wormy" looking kind of noise.
A 35mm lens on a FF gives a fairly wide angle of view. The Photographer may have been some distance back and just took a shot when he saw them walking together holding hands.
He did a severe crop and tried to improve the image with some additional sharpening.
I think that this is normal noise tremendously enlarged.
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Problem with this analysis is that the images are not cropped but are full frame..20mb approximately.
I would let it go as the B&G are satisfied. Unless you paid for the photographer, I don't think you have any leverage and could end up being the scorned party. They need to make the call and try to negotiate a settlement. If they do, then I think intervention is appropriate.
Seeing the white outline around your son's head and shoulders it looks like poor use of the selection tool which was probably used to sharpen him and his bride and/or soften the background. Also, the shot itself seems very amateurish (but other images may have been much better composed). As with many things, you need to do your homework when hiring a ;photographer. There are specialties: weddings, sports, etc. Within these there are specialties: formal vs casual weddings, football vs baseball vs auto racing vs motorcross, etc. Always ask to see several examples of their work before hiring them.
tinplater wrote:
Problem with this analysis is that the images are not cropped but are full frame..20mb approximately.
Here is the same edit resized to approx 19mb
tinplater wrote:
Problem with this analysis is that the images are not cropped but are full frame..20mb approximately.
The good news is that the damage is from PP. Maybe the photog could provide raw or at least unprocessed jpegs.
tinplater wrote:
Here is a typical example...I have uploaded the entire large file, when viewed full size in download you will see the problem! ISO 160 f1.4 1/2000 with Canon 5DMIII and 35mm 1.4 Canon lens.
The ill-informed photographer was probably using too high an ISO setting.
It's a little noisy, but it could be a lot worse. I can see why the customers
are satisfied. As far as your opinion goes, be smart and NEVER mention it.
They're happy. End of story.
Best,
Alan
papa
Loc: Rio Dell, CA
tinplater wrote:
For those who participated in my initial post about image noise in my son's wedding photos, I have learned that the images are NOT proofs but the final product, unfortunately. The couple was given a presentation box, a bottle of champagne, and the thumb drive with the noisy images. I did not ask if she was a professional or how they found her as their photographer because of the sensitivity of the issue (they are, at least on the surface, pleased with the images). They will not receive any prints, but are free to print their pictures from the drive. I am still mystified how 20mb images were made with quality equipment resulting in such noisy images. Thanks to all who have voiced an opinion or taken interest in this discussion.
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It looks and sounds like you shot and gave to them unprocessed RAW medium size shots. I have a 5D Mark III and know how to use it. If you load all the images back onto a CF card in the 5D Mark III, then do in-camera jpg processing you'll have printable images that are smaller files without noise. The other alternative is to know how to process RAW, which it sounds like you're not adept at, at all.
papa wrote:
It looks and sounds like you shot and gave to them unprocessed RAW medium size shots. I have a 5D Mark III and know how to use it. If you load all the images back onto a CF card in the 5D Mark III, then do in-camera jpg processing you'll have printable images that are smaller files without noise. The other alternative is to know how to process RAW, which it sounds like you're not adept at, at all.
It looks and sounds like you didn't read this thread, the poster is not the photographer. Rather the paid photographer gave these edited final digital files to his son, whose wedding it was. The discussion is how did a pro shoot these with a 5D MKIII outdoors with a 1.4 lens and still produce such poor final product.
papa
Loc: Rio Dell, CA
tinplater wrote:
Here is a typical example...I have uploaded the entire large file, when viewed full size in download you will see the problem! ISO 160 f1.4 1/2000 with Canon 5DMIII and 35mm 1.4 Canon lens.
WRONG!!! The Canon 5D Mark III shoots large jpeg like 5-10mb max and RAW 21-30MB, PERIOD!!! That's a problem alright. Only you can solve it, friend.
papa
Loc: Rio Dell, CA
aellman wrote:
The ill-informed photographer was probably using too high an ISO setting.
It's a little noisy, but it could be a lot worse. I can see why the customers
are satisfied. As far as your opinion goes, be smart and NEVER mention it.
They're happy. End of story.
Best,
Alan
WRONG, TOO!!! Does anyone else find that know-nothings keep guessing, but still KNOW NOTHING???
papa
Loc: Rio Dell, CA
Psergel wrote:
He should probably stay away from writing a book
NO DOUBT, AND MAYBE FOREVER, JEEZ. HOW MUCH DUMBSHIRT CAN BE ENDURED OF THE INEPT???
Geez, you're pretty abrasive.
--Bob
papa wrote:
NO DOUBT, AND MAYBE FOREVER, JEEZ. HOW MUCH DUMBSHIRT CAN BE ENDURED OF THE INEPT???
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