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Sep 14, 2017 21:24:24   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I understand , but I never found it much of an issue unless you are shooting close.
The C330 had a parallax indicator under the ground glass that showed where the top of the photo really is.


Yes, I know ...

The thing is ... when you're grabbing a candid ... you don't always make a point to look ...

There should have been a flashing warning light, or a buzzer, or something ...

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Sep 14, 2017 21:31:38   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
ChrisT wrote:
Yes, I know ...

The thing is ... when you're grabbing a candid ... you don't always make a point to look ...

There should have been a flashing warning light, or a buzzer, or something ...


Never had a issue with it shooting sports or weddings.
Just a different way to shoot.
Plus, it's reeeeelllly quiet.

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Sep 14, 2017 22:13:25   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Never had a issue with it shooting sports or weddings.
Just a different way to shoot.
Plus, it's reeeeelllly quiet.


Yup, I guess it would be ...

Weddings, I'll give you ...

But using a TLR for sports would be like using a butter knife to cut a steak ...

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Sep 14, 2017 22:15:07   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
For fast-moving sports, you need, at least - a DX camera, with a fast, and longish lens ...

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Sep 14, 2017 23:23:23   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
ChrisT wrote:
For fast-moving sports, you need, at least - a DX camera, with a fast, and longish lens ...


...and yet, I sometimes used a C-330 and an RB67 with a normal lens to shoot highschool football for a daily newspaper.
The results were usually better than what I got with 35mm.
I shot up to 3 games in one night, staying for 1 quarter per game. (just needing one good image per game made that easier especially when shooting 220 film: 20 or 24 exposure rolls)

To be fair, this was in the '70's, it was at night and I used flash. Braun RL 515 manual flash with full or 1/2 power options. Whooo hooo!
I used the zone system (not Ansel's): pre-focus where you think the action will take place and wait for them to come to that area.
Different times & equipment, different expectations & outcomes.
Flash is now prohibited for sure, lighting is massively better, ISO is almost unlimited, no more 36 exposure rolls with 35mm film.
Upload photos to the paper from the stadium.
No darkroom sessions after the game or going out for pizza with your fellow photogs after the photos are delivered.

I love, love the Nikon D500!!!
I borrowed one from Nikon back in may...amazing camera!

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Sep 14, 2017 23:23:38   #
Spiney Loc: Reading, PA
 
My wife and I had a Portrait studio from 1990-2005. Our first purchase was a Bronica ETRs 645 system for portraits and weddings. Then we needed a backup which was the new ETRSi the ttl version. Several backs & lenses. Then we moved up to an Mamiya RZII system with AE2 prism, power winder, a couple of 6x7 backs, and 3 lenses 90, 127, and our favorite 100-210 zoom. I also owned and regret very much selling Rollie Flex Xenotar 2.8 TLR. A very sharp camera. I borrowed and liked the Fuji 6x7 and 6x9 cameras which were like big Leica Rangefinder 📷

As an assistant to several commercial photographers I loaded many, many Hassleblad 6x6 backs. I also had and used 120 roll film backs for my 2 Speed Graphics.

In 2001 or 2002 We bought a Fuji S2. When we go back beautiful 24x30" prints that we retouched and color corrected in house we sold the MF equipment while there was still a market. I watched the RZ market bottom out and then recover when affordable MF digital backs became available.

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Sep 14, 2017 23:42:08   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
ChrisT wrote:
A DSLR, or was it a film camera?


Argus Seventy-Five
Yashica D
Yashica 635
Yashica Mat 124G
Rolleiflex f/2.8
Bronica SQ
Bronica ETRSi (I still have it.)
Bronica RB67
Camerz Classic 46mm and Split 70mm
Camerz ZII and ZIII Split 70mm

(All film cameras)

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Sep 14, 2017 23:45:16   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
...and yet, I sometimes used a C-330 and an RB67 with a normal lens to shoot highschool football for a daily newspaper.
The results were usually better than what I got with 35mm.
I shot up to 3 games in one night, staying for 1 quarter per game. (just needing one good image per game made that easier especially when shooting 220 film: 20 or 24 exposure rolls)

To be fair, this was in the '70's, it was at night and I used flash. Braun RL 515 manual flash with full or 1/2 power options. Whooo hooo!
I used the zone system (not Ansel's): pre-focus where you think the action will take place and wait for them to come to that area.
Different times & equipment, different expectations & outcomes.
Flash is now prohibited for sure, lighting is massively better, ISO is almost unlimited, no more 36 exposure rolls with 35mm film.
Upload photos to the paper from the stadium.
No darkroom sessions after the game or going out for pizza with your fellow photogs after the photos are delivered.

I love, love the Nikon D500!!!
I borrowed one from Nikon back in may...amazing camera!
...and yet, I sometimes used a C-330 and an RB67 w... (show quote)


Yes, yes, yes ... it's a very different time, now ... advancing technology has changed our lifestyles ....

If I were to seek out a secondary income from shooting sports ... the D500 is one of those I'd consider, first ...

But, the truth is - I don't even care for sports (except tennis and car races) ...

My RB67 was probably the finest MF SLR on the planet when I bought it ...

But I also have the Pentax 6x7 - which is probably the best camera of its type to be used for sports ....

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Sep 14, 2017 23:48:53   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Spiney wrote:
My wife and I had a Portrait studio from 1990-2005. Our first purchase was a Bronica ETRs 645 system for portraits and weddings. Then we needed a backup which was the new ETRSi the ttl version. Several backs & lenses. Then we moved up to an Mamiya RZII system with AE2 prism, power winder, a couple of 6x7 backs, and 3 lenses 90, 127, and our favorite 100-210 zoom. I also owned and regret very much selling Rollie Flex Xenotar 2.8 TLR. A very sharp camera. I borrowed and liked the Fuji 6x7 and 6x9 cameras which were like big Leica Rangefinder 📷

As an assistant to several commercial photographers I loaded many, many Hassleblad 6x6 backs. I also had and used 120 roll film backs for my 2 Speed Graphics.

In 2001 or 2002 We bought a Fuji S2. When we go back beautiful 24x30" prints that we retouched and color corrected in house we sold the MF equipment while there was still a market. I watched the RZ market bottom out and then recover when affordable MF digital backs became available.
My wife and I had a Portrait studio from 1990-2005... (show quote)


Looks like you had most of the best MF SLRs out there, Spiney ...

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Sep 14, 2017 23:57:29   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
burkphoto wrote:
Argus Seventy-Five
Yashica D
Yashica 635
Yashica Mat 124G
Rolleiflex f/2.8
Bronica SQ
Bronica ETRSi (I still have it.)
Bronica RB67
Camerz Classic 46mm and Split 70mm
Camerz ZII and ZIII Split 70mm

(All film cameras)


Feel like parting with the Bronica, Burk?

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Sep 15, 2017 00:54:35   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
ChrisT wrote:
Yes, yes, yes ... it's a very different time, now ... advancing technology has changed our lifestyles ....

If I were to seek out a secondary income from shooting sports ... the D500 is one of those I'd consider, first ...

But, the truth is - I don't even care for sports (except tennis and car races) ...

My RB67 was probably the finest MF SLR on the planet when I bought it ...

But I also have the Pentax 6x7 - which is probably the best camera of its type to be used for sports ....
Yes, yes, yes ... it's a very different time, now ... (show quote)

I never really liked the Pentax 6x7.
Technically speaking, it was amazing camera.
Ergonomically, for me, scaling up a 35mm slr design didn't work.
Like one of our presidents (who I will not name), I have smallish hands.
This is coming from a guy who shot hand-held with a 7-pound RB67.
I held it differently.
G-night chris.
I enjoy chatting with you.

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Sep 15, 2017 01:23:30   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I never really liked the Pentax 6x7.
Technically speaking, it was amazing camera.
Ergonomically, for me, scaling up a 35mm slr design didn't work.
Like one of our presidents (who I will not name), I have smallish hands.
This is coming from a guy who shot hand-held with a 7-pound RB67.
I held it differently.
G-night chris.
I enjoy chatting with you.


Why, thanks, Goofy ... appreciate that thought ...

At one time - I was working with no less than THREE 6x7 format cameras ... the Mamiya RB67, the Mamiya Universal, and the Pentax 6x7 ... the two Mamiyas are gone now, but the Pentax is still holding its own.

I have the 105 on it, now ... it's something I'd never part with. Having it embraces my status ....

Do you know what I mean?

Even though I mostly shoot APS-C and DX, now ...

G'Night, Goofy ...

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Sep 15, 2017 07:16:14   #
soli Loc: London, UK.
 
ChrisT wrote:
A DSLR, or was it a film camera?


A Voigtlander with 7.7lens at age 17, A Rolleicord 3.5 Tessar at age 25. Both film cameras.

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Sep 15, 2017 13:49:03   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
soli wrote:
A Voigtlander with 7.7lens at age 17, A Rolleicord 3.5 Tessar at age 25. Both film cameras.


And, I'll bet, at the time - 7.7 was considered quite fast, eh, Soli?

Love TLRs to look at ... but, they weren't terribly practical ....

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Sep 15, 2017 20:17:20   #
robbiedoug Loc: Cuero, Texas
 
I once owned 2 Mamiya M645s which I used shooting weddings. Tried a Mamiya RB-67 once but it proved to be too heavy to tote around. I still have the M645s but both suffer from mirror separation, so it would be useless trying to sell them. Anyone interested?

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