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Aug 29, 2017 16:48:40   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
CatMarley wrote:
I agree! Win 10 stinks!


This is the first ever instance I'm having to disagree with you.

Have you tried Windows 10 on a new PC that came with it installed? Sure It won't work well if at all on a 2009 Pentium 4 system. I have no idea what computer you have, but I'm giving an example. Nearly every O/S upgrade is best on as a clean install on a reformatted or new HDD, and forget unlicensed programs with missing disks. Not that you would do that.

I did install Win 10 over Win 7 on my wife's PC, but it was only about a year old machine and not used a lot except with other Microsoft programs, like MS-Office. So there was nothing to muck up the installation.

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Aug 29, 2017 16:54:31   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
CatMarley wrote:
I agree! Win 10 stinks!
Yet another highly attitudinal opinion based upon very limited factual information or experience.

Shame upon you Cat, I thought y'all were better than that!

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Aug 29, 2017 17:07:40   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
I agree that windows 10 stinks but this is not the OS itself. It is the principle behind it.

Privacy settings are always reset during an update as are other things like unwanted games.

This now the ONLY reason why I think windows 10 is bad but as said, this is really the policy of philosophy behind it that makes it so.

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Aug 29, 2017 17:15:29   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I agree that windows 10 stinks but this is not the OS itself. It is the principle behind it.

Privacy settings are always reset during an update as are other things like unwanted games.

This now the ONLY reason why I think windows 10 but as said, this really the policy of philosophy behind it that makes it bad.


That is a fair comment, but it is so with most things in today's world. Apple, Google, Facebook are all following the same direction. Windows 10 can be locked down pretty much, and yes, updates can reset things, but mostly they can be controlled. Pain in the derrière, bien sûr, but still manageable.

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Aug 29, 2017 17:47:54   #
Sirsnapalot Loc: Hammond, Louisiana
 
Well it's been over two weeks that Win 10 would not open my photoshop 5.5, I've done lots of research to try and figure out what I could do to solve the problem. I haven't tried anything as of yet but to my surprise, this morning it opened on command and is working perfect!
It also brought up my Western Digital external drive which it kept telling me I would have to reformat in order for it to work and I would loose all my files by doing so! This is the second time that this has happened since I've had Win 10, what's up with that??? Glad to get them back but it is awful scary when it happens. Thanks for all the suggestions, but for now, I'm back in the saddle! Go figure!

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Aug 29, 2017 18:12:33   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Peterff wrote:
The simple answer is yes. Windows supports dual boot functionality, so for example, you could have Windows 10 and Windows 7 on the same machine. You just select which you want at boot time. It uses more disk space, but it works very well. I ran a dual boot W7 / W10 system for two months when W10 came out until I was confident enough to switch.

W10 compatibility modes could address the OP's problem or a virtualized approach to run multiple OS instances.

Or simply bite the bullet and move to Adobe CC.
The simple answer is yes. Windows supports dual bo... (show quote)


Based on past experience with Windows machines, the older operating system has to be installed first. Win 10 knows how Win 7 works and boots. Win 7 doesn't know anything about Win 10, and if you do manage to install it on a second partition on a Win 10 machine, it's unlikely that you'll be able to boot to Win 10 unless you turn around and reinstall it on the same partition.

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Aug 29, 2017 19:05:33   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
therwol wrote:
Based on past experience with Windows machines, the older operating system has to be installed first. Win 10 knows how Win 7 works and boots. Win 7 doesn't know anything about Win 10, and if you do manage to install it on a second partition on a Win 10 machine, it's unlikely that you'll be able to boot to Win 10 unless you turn around and reinstall it on the same partition.


My experience differs. I installed on completely different disks. First I duplicated W7 boot drives, then I did an upgrade from W7 to W10 on one disk while maintaining my original W7 environment, then a clean W10 install at a later date. It can be complex, and there are things that may need attention. The clean W10 install does not carry legacy things forwards, but they can usually be recreated as needed. I was able to choose either environment until I moved to W10 and removed the dual boot function.

Many things are possible, although there may be little point to many of them.

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Aug 29, 2017 19:45:08   #
Digital1022 Loc: Holland, PA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
This maybe several issues. Reinstalling appears to be the first thing to do...

To me there another. Blaming windows 10 (another issue) when trying to use older software... Compare that to using a Prius and putting Diesel in it then complain that the Prius is not compliant with that fuel.

Many older software titles are not compliant with the newest OSes. The OSes are just made backward compatible to them, a big difference. Also, in case you are not aware, there are options in the properties to run the program under different configurations including Windows 95. Explore properties tabs from time to time...

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This maybe several issues. Reinstalling appears t... (show quote)


Well said.

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Aug 29, 2017 19:50:34   #
Digital1022 Loc: Holland, PA
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
I disagree. I have experienced multiple upgrades on my Apple and never had an issue. At work due to Windows 10, I have to replace a perfectly fine scanner. $20,000 down the drain due to the idiots at MicroSoft.

Vent over


One more time. It is not MS's responsibility to make someone elses hardware or software compatible with their OS. Get over it. That is not how the world works. MS notifies them on the changes and it is up to hardware and software developers to make their products compatible. Don't like PC, fine; switch to Apple and quit biggen. However, you will find as I have that Apple works the same way. Deal with it.

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Aug 29, 2017 20:33:07   #
jonjacobik Loc: Quincy, MA
 
When I'm not lugging my camera around I run a computer repair business. Here's what I would do. - The problem is probably the latest version call the creator update - it's playing havoc with a lot of programs. If it's been uninstalled by the update the only thing you can do is reverse the update - you've got 30 days to unwind the update - go to settings, update and security, recovery, and select go back to the previous version of Windows 10. Your program should work if this option is available, however, sooner or later Windows 10 might just upgrade you again.
If that's not an option, reinstall it. If it won't start right click the icon, select open folder, fined the exe program (should have the same icon as you use to start the program, right click again, select Compatibility, the check the box at the bottom 'run this program as administrator' - then apply, and try again. Still not working, Google, "Photoshop won't work with creator update" and you'll find dozens of similar tales and perhaps a solution. Email me directly if you like at jon@supertecs.com

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Aug 30, 2017 00:23:26   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
Yes. It is an Adobe problem. Adobe products were developed using old forms or programming. It would be very costly for Adobe to really bring them up to date. They would have to completely rewrite much of the code. The most they can do economically is gradually remove the conflicts that develop while adding new "features". (That is one reason they won't support older versions.) Adobe is not alone, there are other applications that have problems, but none so ubiquitous as Adobe's.

My ex made a living for her last ten years before retiring just fixing problems like this with some old Cobal code on a big IBM 360, then a 370. (She was one of the few Cobal programmers still in existence. LOL) Even after she retired, her former employer--a large international insurance company--would call her and pay her "bigly" to come in and fix some problem with an assembler language or Cobal code.
Yes. It is an Adobe problem. Adobe products were d... (show quote)


Yes, some companies still use COBAL. A friend and her mother both just finished a several month assignment debugging and code verification COBAL for a company where none of the youngins know the program. So outsiders were found that could still work with COBAL. Both tell me they are still having nightmares about COBAL! They earned a bundle though!

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Aug 30, 2017 04:21:06   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I agree that windows 10 stinks but this is not the OS itself. It is the principle behind it.

Privacy settings are always reset during an update as are other things like unwanted games.

This now the ONLY reason why I think windows 10 is bad but as said, this is really the policy of philosophy behind it that makes it so.


I don't really find that happening. Occasionally something seems off with a browser. I don't have games, or use the Cortana stuff. I have Windows 10 running pretty much like Windows 7. Few complaints. The few issues that come up seem to be due to crap on Web Sites visited and others servers being slow or acting weird. And half of those are solved by a reboot of my WiFi FiOS router.

I don't like MS even trying to be intrusive, so I agree with that part of your point.

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Aug 30, 2017 04:58:16   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Peterff wrote:
My experience differs. I installed on completely different disks. First I duplicated W7 boot drives, then I did an upgrade from W7 to W10 on one disk while maintaining my original W7 environment, then a clean W10 install at a later date. It can be complex, and there are things that may need attention. The clean W10 install does not carry legacy things forwards, but they can usually be recreated as needed. I was able to choose either environment until I moved to W10 and removed the dual boot function.

Many things are possible, although there may be little point to many of them.
My experience differs. I installed on completely ... (show quote)


You just said you started with Win 7 Boot drives. Try putting Win 7 as a second OS with Win 10 already in place. I know that you have the technical expertise to do it, but it would be far from straightforward if you want to use both operating systems in a dual boot configuration. I believe this to be true. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Aug 30, 2017 07:49:12   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
therwol wrote:
You just said you started with Win 7 Boot drives. Try putting Win 7 as a second OS with Win 10 already in place. I know that you have the technical expertise to do it, but it would be far from straightforward if you want to use both operating systems in a dual boot configuration. I believe this to be true. Correct me if I'm wrong.


You may be correct. There are many of approaching problems such as this, and probably many solutions.

For myself, I have completed the migrations to Windows 10, my software works, so I have no need to conduct an experiment. It woild be interesting to know the answers for curiosity's sake, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to try.

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