SusanFromVermont wrote:
Kim, do you have a printer for at least 8x10 prints? That is what I work with to make sure the ones I send out to a photo lab for larger prints will come out right. Also calibrate my monitor and use ICC profiles for the different papers.
If you want to learn about different papers, I recommend getting a sampler from Red River Paper. [
www.redrivercatalog.com ] It contains most of the papers they sell and you can do a test print on each one so you can see how the paper affects the printed image. That is what I did, and I still have that box of prints and refer to it when thinking about getting a different look. I printed half of each page with a standard test photo that will show how colors look in different shades and with/without shadows. On the other half of each page I printed one of my photos - a bright pink poppy with a green background [full bokeh!] and detail not only in the petals but also in the center. The only problem is whether the photo lab you send out to has equivalent papers. Basic selections are usually matte, glossy, luster, and metallic papers. You might like looking at the website because they also have informational articles about papers, printers, and more.
I have a lot of pictures matted and framed already, because I have been exhibiting them. But sometimes when I need a frame for a new photograph, I just remove what is in the one I want to use and put in the new one. Of course, if it is not cropped to the same dimensions I have to cut a new mat... The picture removed can be stored between sheets of cardboard with special paper between them. I also usually leave the mat with the picture so it is ready to go back into the frame again.
I'll be interested in hearing how you like the xposer system. It does sound intriguing, and would certainly fulfill what you are looking for in terms of ease of use and storage. Once you have those frames, then all you would need are additional prints. It is more than twice as much as what I pay for a 16x20 print, but if it works for you it will be worth it.
Susan
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Susan....no I don't have a printer. Yet. I get excited about it. Later, overwhelmed and sure I won't print enough to avoid the dreadful clog problems. I have downloaded ICC files for my local Costco and MPIX. Calibrated my 4k monitor . Confusion set in when I tried to make paper decisions. Was the ICC file for the printers? For the paper? YouTube's, Kelbys LR book. The cha cha goes on and on. And nothing is printed. Still. Sad isn't it? I work, have a mother with dementia and a husband that has had 3 surgeries this year. It doesn't help that I have to pick this topic up and then put it back down before anything tangible happens. And I am a visual/kinesthetic learner.... At this point I need to see something. I think I will call Bay Photo tomorrow and have them help me through my first order. My daughter wants a canvas of 3 otters on an iceberg from my Alaska trip (too too cute!) And I will get something on their xposer system plus a print for gatorboard to see how that goes. Hopefully this will inspire and encourage me to print more.
Red River keeps coming back from a couple of friends and many on the Hog have mentioned it. So I will check them out tonight and learn more....get more excited, get overwhelmed...repeat. LOL! One of the things I love about photography is the creative married to technical. The later only an emerging skill. I really appreciate all you have shared Susan!
Bill_de wrote:
I do everything but cut the glass. Cutting the mats is the least amount of fun.
These are really nice Bill! There is so much to learn and do...wish I could retire. Thanks for posting!
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
Well, each project is six panels of 1'x2' for an overall dimension of 2'x6'. The sunset is on the plywood. The river shot is on Gatorboard. Different construction. Each Gatorboard panel is set into a thin open back frame and they are mulled together with a top and bottom strip of pine. The sunset panels are maple ply with a thin black pine edging around them and also are clamped together and mulled as well with ripped strips of plywood. The top section is the hanging strip with it's opposite mate screwed to the wall and they nest along the 30 to 45 degree longitudinal miter cut.
I printed each panel from a cut-down sheet of 13"x38" cotton-based fine art paper from Red River and printed on my R-2000.
Heft and strength appears to be with the plywood as it is very rigid. The Gatorboard installation is lighter and flimsier because there is no solid continuous back across the piece. Each panel is adhered to it's frame with a bead of hot-melt glue.
I am thinking that I will solve the issue of the bubbling with injecting some adhesive into each void with a syringe and flattening them out with a bayer roller.
The plywood is more cost effective but the Gatorboard does have it's strengths as well.
Both these pieces are going to be the centerpieces in my booth at an art /craft show I am participating in this October.
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Inspiring and really nice! Best of luck in October.
In-lightened wrote:
Susan....no I don't have a printer. Yet. I get excited about it. Later, overwhelmed and sure I won't print enough to avoid the dreadful clog problems. I have downloaded ICC files for my local Costco and MPIX. Calibrated my 4k monitor . Confusion set in when I tried to make paper decisions. Was the ICC file for the printers? For the paper? YouTube's, Kelbys LR book. The cha cha goes on and on. And nothing is printed. Still. Sad isn't it? I work, have a mother with dementia and a husband that has had 3 surgeries this year. It doesn't help that I have to pick this topic up and then put it back down before anything tangible happens. And I am a visual/kinesthetic learner.... At this point I need to see something. I think I will call Bay Photo tomorrow and have them help me through my first order. My daughter wants a canvas of 3 otters on an iceberg from my Alaska trip (too too cute!) And I will get something on their xposer system plus a print for gatorboard to see how that goes. Hopefully this will inspire and encourage me to print more.
Red River keeps coming back from a couple of friends and many on the Hog have mentioned it. So I will check them out tonight and learn more....get more excited, get overwhelmed...repeat. LOL! One of the things I love about photography is the creative married to technical. The later only an emerging skill. I really appreciate all you have shared Susan!
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Hi Kim... It is easy to understand how the desire to learn and having the time to do it are at odds with each other! You certainly have a lot of different things going on in your life. Love the sound of the Otters on an iceberg picture!
One of the things RRP can help with is choosing a photo printer. They do comparisons, too. I have communicated a couple of times by email with them about printers and always got back thoughtful and useful replies. There are some excellent printers available at very reasonable prices. You don't have to go for the expensive ones! And the clogging situation is being handled better by the manufacturers. Just print something once a week!
If you choose their papers, they also provide ICC profiles for each paper and instructions on how to download them to your computer. I use LR and PS, the ICC profiles are accessed when printing from LR [you choose one right at the end of the print dialogue], and they basically override what the printer would use [generic settings for matte, glossy, semi-gloss, etc.].
Love your enthusiasm, and your recognition of what are your strengths and weaknesses. I also like the way technical and creative aspects work together to achieve the final result. For instance, some people do not like editing, finding it too time-consuming just to learn how to use all the tools. To me, the editing is part of the creative process! After all, the camera does not capture the images in exactly the same way we see what we are photographing. Especially since the brain emphasizes various parts while the camera is impartial! So technology helps to adapt the image to the inner vision of what we saw...
Susan
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Hi Kim... It is easy to understand how the desire to learn and having the time to do it are at odds with each other! You certainly have a lot of different things going on in your life. Love the sound of the Otters on an iceberg picture!
One of the things RRP can help with is choosing a photo printer. They do comparisons, too. I have communicated a couple of times by email with them about printers and always got back thoughtful and useful replies. There are some excellent printers available at very reasonable prices. You don't have to go for the expensive ones! And the clogging situation is being handled better by the manufacturers. Just print something once a week!
If you choose their papers, they also provide ICC profiles for each paper and instructions on how to download them to your computer. I use LR and PS, the ICC profiles are accessed when printing from LR [you choose one right at the end of the print dialogue], and they basically override what the printer would use [generic settings for matte, glossy, semi-gloss, etc.].
Love your enthusiasm, and your recognition of what are your strengths and weaknesses. I also like the way technical and creative aspects work together to achieve the final result. For instance, some people do not like editing, finding it too time-consuming just to learn how to use all the tools. To me, the editing is part of the creative process! After all, the camera does not capture the images in exactly the same way we see what we are photographing. Especially since the brain emphasizes various parts while the camera is impartial! So technology helps to adapt the image to the inner vision of what we saw...
Susan
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Susan....I ordered the Canon Pro-100. It will do 13x19. I'm excited! Thanks for your latest post...you answered some of my questions. Excited! It comes with 50 sheets of 13x19 canon luster. So I'll have some paper to make mistakes....red river purchase is next. Which papers do you use from them? I did find a lot of useful information at their website.
I like the edit process as well. I have good visual memory so it's satisfying to bring the life back as I saw it. You made a good point when you mentioned we all assign values in a scene while the camera has no bias. I use LR and do some color correction in PS. I have managed to download the ICC files for MPIX when I thought I would use them so know how to do that.
Oh boy!!!
Kim
In-lightened wrote:
Susan....I ordered the Canon Pro-100. It will do 13x19. I'm excited! Thanks for your latest post...you answered some of my questions. Excited! It comes with 50 sheets of 13x19 canon luster. So I'll have some paper to make mistakes....red river purchase is next. Which papers do you use from them? I did find a lot of useful information at their website.
I like the edit process as well. I have good visual memory so it's satisfying to bring the life back as I saw it. You made a good point when you mentioned we all assign values in a scene while the camera has no bias. I use LR and do some color correction in PS. I have managed to download the ICC files for MPIX when I thought I would use them so know how to do that.
Oh boy!!!
Kim
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Good morning Kim,
I have heard good things about the Pro-100. My current printer is also a Canon, and they have great customer service. Still undecided about my next printer, choice is between a Canon and an Epson that will print 17x22. That is big enough for most of my printing. The rest I can send out to the photo lab I use.
The papers I use from RRP are the Ultra Pro Satin, Arctic Polar Luster, and the Polar Pearl Metallic. The Luster is more expensive than the Satin, so I use the Satin for initial prints, and save the Luster for when I am totally satisfied with what I will get. Their temperatures are slightly different, but results are still comparable. I do not use Matte paper a lot, but it depends on the type of photo and what will look best. Recently got some of their Aurora Art Natural [also comes in white] which is a matte paper. It was on sale, there was some in the sampler I bought several years ago, so I was able to see how it worked with the images I was considering. I still have not used it much but like the results I have gotten.
One thing that can help is the descriptions RRP provides. Great detail that can help with visualizing the paper and what it would be good for. My recommendation is to start out with one or two basic papers in 8 1/2 x 11. Then your "mistakes" won't be so costly! When I am still not sure if images are where I want them, I will often print what I call "test" prints. You can do 2, 3, or 4 different pictures to a page, then when satisfied can either do an 8x10 or go right to 13x19.
RRP has good sales, which is when I buy a lot of my papers. And if you sign up to have an account with them, and sign in to it when ordering, you will get Reward Points for that purchase which can be used later for another purchase. It is not a lot, but every bit helps!
So glad I have been able to answer some of your questions! There is never one simple correct answer that works for everyone, but it is always good to be able to share what I have learned through a lot of trial and error...
I am looking forward to hearing how you are enjoying your new printer! You are traveling down a new and exciting pathway in your photography.
Susan
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Good morning Kim,
I have heard good things about the Pro-100. My current printer is also a Canon, and they have great customer service. Still undecided about my next printer, choice is between a Canon and an Epson that will print 17x22. That is big enough for most of my printing. The rest I can send out to the photo lab I use.
The papers I use from RRP are the Ultra Pro Satin, Arctic Polar Luster, and the Polar Pearl Metallic. The Luster is more expensive than the Satin, so I use the Satin for initial prints, and save the Luster for when I am totally satisfied with what I will get. Their temperatures are slightly different, but results are still comparable. I do not use Matte paper a lot, but it depends on the type of photo and what will look best. Recently got some of their Aurora Art Natural [also comes in white] which is a matte paper. It was on sale, there was some in the sampler I bought several years ago, so I was able to see how it worked with the images I was considering. I still have not used it much but like the results I have gotten.
One thing that can help is the descriptions RRP provides. Great detail that can help with visualizing the paper and what it would be good for. My recommendation is to start out with one or two basic papers in 8 1/2 x 11. Then your "mistakes" won't be so costly! When I am still not sure if images are where I want them, I will often print what I call "test" prints. You can do 2, 3, or 4 different pictures to a page, then when satisfied can either do an 8x10 or go right to 13x19.
RRP has good sales, which is when I buy a lot of my papers. And if you sign up to have an account with them, and sign in to it when ordering, you will get Reward Points for that purchase which can be used later for another purchase. It is not a lot, but every bit helps!
So glad I have been able to answer some of your questions! There is never one simple correct answer that works for everyone, but it is always good to be able to share what I have learned through a lot of trial and error...
I am looking forward to hearing how you are enjoying your new printer! You are traveling down a new and exciting pathway in your photography.
Susan
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Thanks for all the information regarding the paper you find useful. I was just looking through the choices at RRP...and was feeling a little lost. I would not have thought to print multiple pictures on a 8.5x11 to check before printing the larger size. That is a great tip! I have a lot to learn...and will be making my share of mistakes.
I wish you all the best in choosing your next printer!
Kim
PS..I am a Nikon person too...love my D810!
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