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Aug 20, 2017 15:34:35   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
[quote=Apaflo]Again I'll ask, this time for all of you, what is it that makes them Street? Just being on a roadway does not! quote]

Again I'll ask: compare this photo with larryN's and explain why yours is street photography.


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Aug 20, 2017 16:05:20   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
travelwp wrote:
Apaflo wrote:
Again I'll ask, this time for all of you, what is it that makes them Street? Just being on a roadway does not!


Again I'll ask: compare this photo with larryN's and explain why yours is street photography.

Lets stay on topic, okay? That image has already been analyzed and is very clearly not related to the images here.

In what way do the posted images qualify as Street Photography? How are they depicting "the human condition". Or how do they fit the definition that Hershel posted from Wikipedia, "where the image projects a decidedly human character in facimile or aesthetic"? The problem is none of the posted images project a generic "human character", they at most are merely images of people but do not project human character.

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Aug 20, 2017 16:59:55   #
MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI
 
Apaflo wrote:
I have specifically said that showing a human is not necessary. But just being on a roadway does not cause an image to be Street. It must somehow show the intangible relationships between people and their surroundings. It is difficult to do with no visible human......

So the relationships between humans and their surroundings depicted in these beautiful images are too "tangible"?

I could understand your concern for the definition more if these were images of hydrangeas in someones front yard. But, being an obvious attempt at human interaction - granted without any obvious humans present other than the photographer at the time of the capture - these would show part of the relationships between people and their surroundings and an attempt by the artist to have relationships with other humans.

And they are pretty - both the images and the murals.

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Aug 20, 2017 17:15:33   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Well I, for one, consider this Street Photography, and that's by my definition, which is the only one that matters to me. Interesting images!

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Aug 20, 2017 17:29:44   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Apaflo wrote:
In what way do the posted images qualify as Street Photography? How are they depicting "the human condition"..


Apaflo, you submitted this photo as street photography. As as student of street photography, I would like to know how you compare your photo with larryN's. This is the third time I'm asking. It doesn't seem to me to be a tough question.


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Aug 20, 2017 17:30:53   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
cjc2 wrote:
Well I, for one, consider this Street Photography, and that's by my definition, which is the only one that matters to me. Interesting images!

Fine. What makes it Street? Why not urban landscape?

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Aug 20, 2017 17:34:59   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
travelwp wrote:
Apaflo, you submitted this photo as street photography. As as student of street photography, I would like to know how you compare your photo with larryN's. This is the t0hird time I'm asking. It doesn't seem to me to be a tough question.

There are no similarities. Different subjects and intents.

Lets stay on topic.

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Aug 20, 2017 17:37:18   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
cjc2 wrote:
Well I, for one, consider this Street Photography, and that's by my definition, which is the only one that matters to me. Interesting images!

There does not seem to be a consensus on the definition of street photography. There probably never will be.

Some would consider this street photography and others might not, just as one might consider a truck parked on the tundra to be street photography even though everyone else disagreed.

How we define street photography is very much on topic here since the question
Apaflo wrote:
Can you tell us what makes those Street Photography?

was initially raised by Apaflo. Was that a Socratic question or are we honestly trying to find a universal answer?

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Aug 20, 2017 17:38:51   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Apaflo wrote:
Fine. What makes it Street? Why not urban landscape?

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Aug 20, 2017 17:39:58   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Great! What makes it not Street? Because YOU say so? Not for me. It's as Street as it could ever get in my book! As they say, "Street (Beauty) is in they eye of the onlooker".

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Aug 20, 2017 18:00:18   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
selmslie wrote:
was initially raised by Apaflo. Was that a Socratic question or are we honestly trying to find a universal answer?

Try to stay on topic. We don't need a universal definition to answer the question of why any specific image should be consideted Street, but "it fits my definition" is not an answer either. What definition is that and how does the image match.

What makes any of those images Street?

Give the last image of the bunch a try, because it might well fit!

Has it yet struck anyone how nobody seems to know why, or why not, something is or is not Street? What is needed is a better understanding of what Street actually is!

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Aug 20, 2017 18:29:21   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
cjc2 wrote:
Great! What makes it not Street? Because YOU say so? Not for me. It's as Street as it could ever get in my book! As they say, "Street (Beauty) is in they eye of the onlooker".

So basically you have no reason to label it Street. I don't either, and therefore logically do not!

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Aug 20, 2017 18:34:22   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Apaflo wrote:
So basically you have no reason to label it Street. I don't either, and therefore logically do not!


You have it EXACTLY backwards! I have no reason NOT to label it Street, so I do! Perfectly logical!

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Aug 20, 2017 18:40:46   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
cjc2 wrote:
You have it EXACTLY backwards! I have no reason NOT to label it Street, so I do! Perfectly logical!

Okay. But it appears you are just arguing to argue. The fact that they fit no common definition of Street is significant.

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Aug 20, 2017 21:08:22   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Apaflo wrote:
Okay. But it appears you are just arguing to argue. The fact that they fit no common definition of Street is significant.


Not to me! It fits MY definition. This reminds me of the Canon-Nikon debate. No clear, or maybe real, answer. Is it Urban Landscape as well, sure, I'll agree with that, but that's not the only definition it fits for me.

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