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Aug 19, 2017 08:40:11   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
Robert E Lee was married to George Washington's granddaughter. He worked with Grant during the Mexican-American war and became a decorated war hero defending this country He believed slavery was a great evil and his wife broke the law by teaching slaves to read and write. After the civil war he worked with Andrew Johnson's program of reconstruction. He became very popular with the northern states and the Barracks at West Point were named in his honor in 1962. He was a great man who served this country his entire life in some form or other. His memorial is now being called a blight. No American military veteran should be treated as such. People keep yelling, "You can't change history." Sadly you can. This is no better than book burnings. ISIS tried rewriting history by destroying historical artifacts. Is that really who we want to emulate?
As they tear down this "blight" keep these few historical facts in your mind. No military veteran and highly decorated war hero should ever be treated as such. This is not Iraq and that is not a statue of Sadam.

IN ADDITION:: Lee was also very torn about the prospect of the South leaving the Union. His wifes grandfather George Washington was a huge influence on him. He believed that ultimately, states rights trumped the federal government and chose to lead the Southern army. His estate, Arlington, near Washington DC was his home and while away fighting the war, the federal government demanded that Lee himself pay his taxes in person. He sent his wife but the money was not accepted from a woman. When he could not pay the taxes, the government began burying dead Union soldiers on his land. The government is still burying people there today. It is now called Arlington National Cemetery. DO THEY WANT TO TEAR THAT UP ALSO ??

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Aug 19, 2017 09:01:01   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
No Flyboy. That's the stuff you can read in books.. However his final act of treason over shadowed all those other things and he'll always be remembered as the leader of the Confederate Army. When they put up a statue of George Washington in the UK, then I'll consider reinstalling a statue of Lee.

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Aug 19, 2017 09:06:06   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
Frank T wrote:
No Flyboy. That's the stuff you can read in books.. However his final act of treason over shadowed all those other things and he'll always be remembered as the leader of the Confederate Army. When they put up a statue of George Washington in the UK, then I'll consider reinstalling a statue of Lee.


The only difference between Washington and Lee is Washington won, thanks in part to the French. You have a very myopic view of history.

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Aug 19, 2017 09:17:01   #
Fat Gregory Loc: Southern New Jersey
 
Thank GOD for Navy Pilots
Semper Fi
Greg

Say Frank, is your point that IF it's in a book it's wrong or warped? Please quote your sources or identify your opinion as IMHO. Fair enough???

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Aug 19, 2017 09:29:10   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Fat Gregory wrote:
Thank GOD for Navy Pilots
Semper Fi
Greg

Say Frank, is your point that IF it's in a book it's wrong or warped? Please quote your sources or identify your opinion as IMHO. Fair enough???


Greg,' Where did I say it was wrong? What I said in simple language was that it doesn't matter what he did before, because once he became a Traitor, everything else became unimportant.

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Aug 19, 2017 09:31:04   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
Frank T wrote:
Greg,' Where did I say it was wrong? What I said in simple language was that it doesn't matter what he did before, because once he became a Traitor, everything else became unimportant.


He was no more a traitor than our founding fathers.

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Aug 19, 2017 09:34:40   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
usnpilot wrote:
He was no more a traitor than our founding fathers.


They were traitors from England's perspective and patriots from ours and had they lost the war they'd be in history books as a list of traitors that were hung by the order of the King.
However,Lee's side lost the war so he is a traitor. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Aug 19, 2017 09:41:52   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
Frank T wrote:
They were traitors from England's perspective and patriots from ours and had they lost the war they'd be in history books as a list of traitors that were hung by the order of the King.
However,Lee's side lost the war so he is a traitor. Nothing more, nothing less.


As I said, you have a myopic view of history, everything is either black or white to you. I don't need you in my threads. Goodbye.

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Aug 19, 2017 11:01:49   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
usnpilot wrote:
The only difference between Washington and Lee is Washington won, thanks in part to the French. You have a very myopic view of history.


What's the difference between Washington and Benedict Arnold???
I mean besides that Washington won that one too???
I don't recall Washington ever took up arms against his country!!?
SS

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Aug 19, 2017 11:08:30   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
usnpilot wrote:
As I said, you have a myopic view of history, everything is either black or white to you. I don't need you in my threads. Goodbye.


Did you block Frank because he is working to undermine our government, is a traitor and a hypocrite?

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Aug 19, 2017 11:34:53   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
SharpShooter wrote:

I don't recall Washington ever took up arms against his country!!?
SS


Have you erased the historical facts of the revolutionary war? Keep reading and you will find that George Washington took up arms against England.

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Aug 19, 2017 11:37:54   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Wrangler wrote:
Have you erased the historical facts of the revolutionary war? Keep reading and you will find that George Washington took up arms against England.


Duhhhh

And you think there are statues of Washington ALL OVER England????
SS

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Aug 19, 2017 11:52:37   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Duhhhh

And you think there are statues of Washington ALL OVER England????
SS


Keep rereading. We were not talking about statues in England. Nice straw man attempt, though.

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Aug 19, 2017 13:11:22   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
SharpShooter wrote:
What's the difference between Washington and Benedict Arnold???
I mean besides that Washington won that one too???
I don't recall Washington ever took up arms against his country!!?
SS


Before the revolution England was his country, I believe he took up arms against his country.

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Aug 19, 2017 13:35:01   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Duhhhh

And you think there are statues of Washington ALL OVER England????
SS



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