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Aug 18, 2017 23:22:20   #
Digital1022 Loc: Holland, PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There are hundreds of different high quality cameras available, and many people would like to own the "best" one. The features a camera offers help move it into that "best" category. Why, then, would manufacturers leave out features that they could easily include to make their cameras more appealing? I know they offer more on their high end models to attract buyers who are willing to spend more, but even at the high end, some brands offer features not available in other brands.

Let's say that four top level cameras have identical features, how could a lab determine which one is the absolute best camera. Using that system, they could also determine the best entry level and pro-sumer model. I know personal opinion might play a part, but it shouldn't. The feel of a camera is irrelevant when what you want is quality. I have lots of differently shaped cameras, and my hands adapt to them just fine. Magazines and online sites like to pick the best cameras in different categories, but they never seem to agree.

Another consideration is the weaknesses of cameras. If Camera A has a weakness in a certain area, and Camera B doesn't, why wouldn't the makers of Camera A correct that? They can see what the competition is doing and where they are coming up short. I don't think this is a financial situation, just design and attention to details. So many cameras have so many features and such good quality, that it seems like it would be possible to combine all of that into one brand.

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In my opinion, the best camera is the one designed for you that has the necessary tools to produce quality images for the type of photography that you do. I disagree with you on the point that quality is all that matters and submit that fit, at least for me, is equally important. Case in point was that I have been a Nikon user for 30 years. I knew that I was going on an Alaska cruise in May and I decided that I did not want to lug a lot of equipment with me, so I purchased a Sony RX10iii that was recommended to me by a pro friend of mine. I practiced and practiced with it, so that I would be comfortable with it when I took it into the field on the cruise. It took great images, but it never felt comfortable in that I just could not get used to the different configuration. I missed a lot of eagles in flight just because I took to long to get to the right zoom or aperture, etc. I sold it in July and bought a D500 to replace it. I don't miss those shots anymore because I instinctively know where the controls are. The best camera for me will always be the one that has the necessary bells and whistles for my type of photography and nothing more. If it comes with more, so be it, but if I don't use it, I don't need it. I don't need a D5 for $6,000 if I get great results with a D500. I have a D800 that I will probably upgrade at some point (probably the new 850) because I do have a need for FX for some of my work. In any case, there is no "best" camera in my opinion and there never will be.

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Aug 19, 2017 00:16:36   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Digital1022 wrote:
In my opinion, the best camera is the one designed for you that has the necessary tools to produce quality images for the type of photography that you do. I disagree with you on the point that quality is all that matters and submit that fit, at least for me, is equally important. Case in point was that I have been a Nikon user for 30 years. I knew that I was going on an Alaska cruise in May and I decided that I did not want to lug a lot of equipment with me, so I purchased a Sony RX10iii that was recommended to me by a pro friend of mine. I practiced and practiced with it, so that I would be comfortable with it when I took it into the field on the cruise. It took great images, but it never felt comfortable in that I just could not get used to the different configuration. I missed a lot of eagles in flight just because I took to long to get to the right zoom or aperture, etc. I sold it in July and bought a D500 to replace it. I don't miss those shots anymore because I instinctively know where the controls are. The best camera for me will always be the one that has the necessary bells and whistles for my type of photography and nothing more. If it comes with more, so be it, but if I don't use it, I don't need it. I don't need a D5 for $6,000 if I get great results with a D500. I have a D800 that I will probably upgrade at some point (probably the new 850) because I do have a need for FX for some of my work. In any case, there is no "best" camera in my opinion and there never will be.
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From the wording used by the OP my understanding was that he was wondering why we have multiple companies each producing a flag-ship camera - perhaps having having just one such camera would be better. My issue with that concept from the beginning is that different people have different "wants" {I won't use the word "needs" here}, and making one camera meeting all those "wants" would be self-defeating, because a smallish package is one of the "wants" for some of us.

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Aug 19, 2017 09:18:46   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
From the wording used by the OP my understanding was that he was wondering why we have multiple companies each producing a flag-ship camera - perhaps having having just one such camera would be better. My issue with that concept from the beginning is that different people have different "wants" {I won't use the word "needs" here}, and making one camera meeting all those "wants" would be self-defeating, because a smallish package is one of the "wants" for some of us.
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And because some of my wants are not to have features that I don't like.

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Aug 23, 2017 18:11:18   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
I think "different strokes for different folks" sums this up pretty well!

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Oct 18, 2017 19:51:48   #
lindmike
 
As far as results go, I think it would be hard to argue with the results that fellow Hogger, Regis gets with his Canon 5DSR. His 50mp camera and his steady hand produce some fantastic shots. It may not have the features that are available on other cameras that may be required by other photographers. Each camera has its own special feature, e.g..FPS, low light feature, zoom, etc.

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Oct 18, 2017 20:50:33   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There are hundreds of different high quality cameras available, and many people would like to own the "best" one. The features a camera offers help move it into that "best" category. Why, then, would manufacturers leave out features that they could easily include to make their cameras more appealing? I know they offer more on their high end models to attract buyers who are willing to spend more, but even at the high end, some brands offer features not available in other brands.

Let's say that four top level cameras have identical features, how could a lab determine which one is the absolute best camera. Using that system, they could also determine the best entry level and pro-sumer model. I know personal opinion might play a part, but it shouldn't. The feel of a camera is irrelevant when what you want is quality. I have lots of differently shaped cameras, and my hands adapt to them just fine. Magazines and online sites like to pick the best cameras in different categories, but they never seem to agree.

Another consideration is the weaknesses of cameras. If Camera A has a weakness in a certain area, and Camera B doesn't, why wouldn't the makers of Camera A correct that? They can see what the competition is doing and where they are coming up short. I don't think this is a financial situation, just design and attention to details. So many cameras have so many features and such good quality, that it seems like it would be possible to combine all of that into one brand.

Ideas? Comments?
There are hundreds of different high quality camer... (show quote)


You always have to remember that the job of any camera company is not to MAKE cameras, but to SELL them, and to sell as many as they can. If the company were tpo put every gizmo and every feature in to every camera they would go out of business, as taht camera would be very expensive and only pros or wealthy shooters Would buy them So they mke many models with fewer goodies so as to capture those markets. And BTW there is no such thing as "best" as top of the line cameras are always improving and "up grades" are always being released.

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Oct 18, 2017 20:57:03   #
jcboy3
 
berchman wrote:
Since when has rationality been the criterion of product design? Look at cars, for example. Which is the "best" car?


Bugatti Veyron.

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