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Aug 8, 2017 10:31:46   #
avemal Loc: BALTIMORE
 
What are the benefits over DSLR?

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Aug 8, 2017 10:38:27   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
The one disadvantage is that the user is looking at a "video" image of what the camera is seeing. So, there is a slight lag in what one is seeing in the viewfinder vs. what is actually happening in front of the camera.
--Bob

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Aug 8, 2017 10:42:25   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
This question has been asked and answered numerous times.
Here are just a couple of the threads, you can search for many more.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-434657-1.html
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-292549-3.html

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Aug 8, 2017 10:42:58   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
Lighter weight, smaller size.

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Aug 8, 2017 10:43:31   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
avemal wrote:
What are the benefits over DSLR?


This was asked last week and just about every week. The difference is 1) you see the picture the way it will look including depth of field (at least on the Sony's) 2) more compact 3) lighter wt 4) no mirror slap. The biggest con is that the auto focus systems that use the penta prism are faster so if you are going to shoot birds in flight or sports, a DSLR has an advantage, but that advantage is shrinking with Sony's newest camera but it is close to $5000. DSLR also don't have the battery drain from the EVF so a little longer battery life. There might be a few other differences but these are the big ones.

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Aug 8, 2017 10:46:40   #
MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI
 
The bodies tend to be smaller and lighter (though the Panasonic GH5 is about the weight of a smaller DSLR). The distance from the back of the lens to the sensor is shorter so the lenses for the equivalent field of view tend to be shorter and lighter. No moving mirror. And on the high end mirrorless some features are available that might not be on DSLR (like focus bracketing).

DSLRs tend to be a more mature systems with more choices of lenses. The costs might be approaching each other as DSLRs are competing with mirrorless and loosing some market share.

But also the smaller the sensor the greater the depth of field for any particular distance. So mirrorless do not do as well with "background-out-of-focus" images.

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Aug 8, 2017 10:47:57   #
avemal Loc: BALTIMORE
 
wmurnahan wrote:
This was asked last week and just about every week. The difference is 1) you see the picture the way it will look including depth of field (at least on the Sony's) 2) more compact 3) lighter wt 4) no mirror slap. The biggest con is that the auto focus systems that use the penta prism are faster so if you are going to shoot birds in flight or sports, a DSLR has an advantage, but that advantage is shrinking with Sony's newest camera but it is close to $5000. DSLR also don't have the battery drain from the EVF so a little longer battery life. There might be a few other differences but these are the big ones.
This was asked last week and just about every week... (show quote)


Many Thanks

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Aug 8, 2017 10:53:00   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Sony SLT cameras focus as fast as DSLR's because like DSLR's, they also have a dedicated AF module. With their fixed translucent mirrors, however, you get the best of both worlds. Because with the EVF you see EXACTLY what the image sensor "sees". You can tell what your framing, exposure, color... EVERYTHING will be... BEFORE you trip the shutter.

You ALSO get a LOT of information through the EVF that NO optical viewfinder can give. Everything from the LCD screen if you want, meaning you can keep the camera to your eye and NOT have to chimp or look down to tell your status.

My film cameras of course have OVF's... but I will NEVER buy a digital camera with an OVF again, EVF's are just that superior.

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Aug 8, 2017 11:14:41   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
"But also the smaller the sensor the greater the depth of field for any particular distance". <-- that is incorrect.

"This magnification magnifies everything – also imperfections and blurring in the projected image. This means that, at the same distance from your subject, at the same physical focal length and aperture setting, a camera with a smaller sensor will have shallower depth of field than the one with a larger sensor".
From: https://photographylife.com/sensor-size-perspective-and-depth-of-field
--Bob

MichaelH wrote:
The bodies tend to be smaller and lighter (though the Panasonic GH5 is about the weight of a smaller DSLR). The distance from the back of the lens to the sensor is shorter so the lenses for the equivalent field of view tend to be shorter and lighter. No moving mirror. And on the high end mirrorless some features are available that might not be on DSLR (like focus bracketing).

DSLRs tend to be a more mature systems with more choices of lenses. The costs might be approaching each other as DSLRs are competing with mirrorless and loosing some market share.

But also the smaller the sensor the greater the depth of field for any particular distance. So mirrorless do not do as well with "background-out-of-focus" images.
The bodies tend to be smaller and lighter (though ... (show quote)

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Aug 8, 2017 11:39:05   #
MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI
 
rmalarz wrote:
"But also the smaller the sensor the greater the depth of field for any particular distance". <-- that is incorrect.

"This magnification magnifies everything – also imperfections and blurring in the projected image. This means that, at the same distance from your subject, at the same physical focal length and aperture setting, a camera with a smaller sensor will have shallower depth of field than the one with a larger sensor".
From: https://photographylife.com/sensor-size-perspective-and-depth-of-field
--Bob
"But also the smaller the sensor the greater ... (show quote)

I was conflating terms and was thinking of this point also mentioned in the article you supplied:

"5) The Bottom Line
With two cameras that have very different size sensors you can take photographs that look exactly the same, in terms of Depth of Field and Perspective. However, a large sensor camera gives you more creative freedom in the ability to isolate your subject from the image background."

Emphasis added by my tag - not in original. What I was trying to convey was that it is harder to get that soft blurry background with smaller sensors.

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Aug 8, 2017 23:46:08   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
rmalarz wrote:
"But also the smaller the sensor the greater the depth of field for any particular distance". <-- that is incorrect.

"This magnification magnifies everything – also imperfections and blurring in the projected image. This means that, at the same distance from your subject, at the same physical focal length and aperture setting, a camera with a smaller sensor will have shallower depth of field than the one with a larger sensor".
From: https://photographylife.com/sensor-size-perspective-and-depth-of-field
--Bob
"But also the smaller the sensor the greater ... (show quote)


Not sure how sensor size entered the discussion of mirrorless. There are FF in mirrorless, there are crop frames in DSLR.

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Aug 8, 2017 23:58:53   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
wmurnahan wrote:
Not sure how sensor size entered the discussion of mirrorless. There are FF in mirrorless, there are crop frames in DSLR.



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Aug 9, 2017 05:11:54   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
rmalarz wrote:
The one disadvantage is that the user is looking at a "video" image of what the camera is seeing. So, there is a slight lag in what one is seeing in the viewfinder vs. what is actually happening in front of the camera.
--Bob


At 120fps there isn't much lag. And remember, subliminal advertising in the theaters was done at only 30fps. Most people never remembered see the advertisement.

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Aug 9, 2017 05:53:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
avemal wrote:
What are the benefits over DSLR?


And vice versa?

https://www.lightstalking.com/considerations-mirrorless-cameras/
http://www.lightstalking.com/mirrorless-vs-dslr/
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/dslr-vs-mirrorless-cameras,news-17736.html (You have to copy and paste this link. No idea why.)

And lots more -
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dslr+or+mirrorless

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Aug 9, 2017 06:08:06   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
avemal wrote:
What are the benefits over DSLR?


Mostly, larger sensor for large pictures that can be printed on very large canvases with the least amount of noise, and interchangeable lenses that are of high quality that run circles around small built in zooms on point and shoot cameras.

Never mind.

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