Sjfh wrote:
Case in point right here. Last week (Thursday) I had a spinal fusion surgery canceled just half an hour before going into the OR at Walter Reed. IMO, the resident jumped the gun on interpreting some test results, but what's done is done. I'm in considerable pain as well as suffering from progressive nerve damage and my surgeon said he'd get me in as soon as possible. In the military system, ASAP translates in this case to September or October. In the meantime I wait with my two new best friends....Robaxin and Percocet...and hope for two things: that I don't develop increased tolerance or dependence and that my escalating nerve damage remains reversible.
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So sorry to hear of your condition that sounds as though it was avoidable and unnecessary.
I hope for your sake they can reverse the damage. The thought of progressive nerve damage seems unbearable.
Good luck with a cure.
I can't speak for all military branches, bases, or units but in all units to which I was attached there was politics. I'm sure there is no surprise that anytime two or more people get together, politics happens.
If you are asking if military personnel should get involved in politics, I would say yes. When one joins the service, he or she does not stop being a citizen. Citizens cause politics. It is the duty of every citizen to take a role in politics, at least by voting.
If the government were considering doing away with social security benefits, every eligible person has a dog in the hunt and should get involved. I don't see how the military is any different.
I cannot speak for all wars, police actions, conflicts or any other PC term you chose, but I guarantee that congress had its political hands in the rules of war and the movement of troops in Vietnam. Most of the directives were detrimental to the military effort. In other words they wanted to run the "conflict" and were dumber than a box of hammers when it came to war.
In short, I think that the military has not only the right but also the duty to ask for budget increases from congress. There are "people" in the military not aliens from outer space. These "people" have the same rights as all people.
Wrangler wrote:
I can't speak for all military branches, bases, or units but in all units to which I was attached there was politics. I'm sure there is no surprise that anytime two or more people get together, politics happens.
If you are asking if military personnel should get involved in politics, I would say yes. When one joins the service, he or she does not stop being a citizen. Citizens cause politics. It is the duty of every citizen to take a role in politics, at least by voting.
If the government were considering doing away with social security benefits, every eligible person has a dog in the hunt and should get involved. I don't see how the military is any different.
I cannot speak for all wars, police actions, conflicts or any other PC term you chose, but I guarantee that congress had its political hands in the rules of war and the movement of troops in Vietnam. Most of the directives were detrimental to the military effort. In other words they wanted to run the "conflict" and were dumber than a box of hammers when it came to war.
In short, I think that the military has not only the right but also the duty to ask for budget increases from congress. There are "people" in the military not aliens from outer space. These "people" have the same rights as all people.
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I agree.
The main objectives for a serviceperson are:
Defend the Constitution in its entirety
Protect your brothers
Carry out your orders without prejudice
Vote for those who do the same
soba1
Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
Thanks fellas.
I appreciate your comments.
i have a great deal of respect for those that have served and served.
Vietnam vets I don't know why but I always have a lil more extra esteem for you.
soba1 wrote:
Thanks fellas.
I appreciate your comments.
i have a great deal of respect for those that have served and served.
Vietnam vets I don't know why but I always have a lil more extra esteem for you.
Vietnam was the worst of the worst as far as wars go only because of the untested chemicals that were used.
Our troops are still living through the horrific mess they were subjected to.
phcaan
Loc: Willow Springs, MO
Frosty wrote:
Taking a loyalty oath to Donald Trump, or any president , would be the worst thing the military could do. That is how dictatorships develop. You take a loyalty oat to preserve, protect and defend the constitution........not some politician. However, that includes following the lawful orders of the president when he is acting as Comander in Chief of the armed forces.
As a 30 year veteran and an officer, I can't say I have ever seen any attempt by other officers to try to get the officer corps to influence either the president or congress in any way. That would be unacceptable conduct.
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With you attitude it is a wonder you escaped a fragging.
BigBear wrote:
Vietnam was the worst of the worst as far as wars go only because of the untested chemicals that were used.
Our troops are still living through the horrific mess they were subjected to.
We also didn't do Vietnamese people any favors. Before we enter into a war of choice, we should know what we are trying to acomplish. We should know what victory will look like so we can recognize it if we see it. If it's a war for our survival, there may not be time for all of that.
phcaan wrote:
With you attitude it is a wonder you escaped a fragging.
You believe that a soldiers loyalty should be to the president? What loyalty oath (there may be one now) to the president have you ever seen.
phcaan
Loc: Willow Springs, MO
thom w wrote:
You believe that a soldiers loyalty should be to the president? What loyalty oath (there may be one now) to the president have you ever seen.
I never said any such thing, and other than the president being Commander in Chief I know of no such oath.
Leica User wrote:
Had to get you lefty agenda in, didn't you? You pathetic imbecile.
Leica Abuser, take your vile opinions, fold them six times and stuff them where the sun never shines, to borrow from Dick Cavett. You are a waste of living space.
soba1
Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
BigBear wrote:
Vietnam was the worst of the worst as far as wars go only because of the untested chemicals that were used.
Our troops are still living through the horrific mess they were subjected to.
I remember when I was in college.
There was a guy in a wheel chair, and he was sucked looked like a skeleton.
He was a Vietnam Nam vet, he wore orange Van tennis shoes and on the back of his
wheel chair he had a sign posted agent orange.
I had a neighbor who was in Nam he told me stories about his time in the Marines.
He told me his friend I would see occasionally how he had what they called jungle rot.
Maybe that's why I have a lil more love for Vietnam guys because of the shit u went through.
There is this guy I work with and a guy in his crew was a Vietnam Vet special forces.
He is a big fat ass now, my buddy made a comment about him.
I laughed and said close range I bet he would still whup your ass and mine too.
soba1
Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
Six times George OUCH lmao
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