He Fights for America! (Page 8): Thom likes his Medicaid, Thom kept his Medicaid!

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

thom w wrote:

I like my Doctor, I kept my Doctor. I like my plan, I kept my plan.

Thom likes his Medicaid, Thom kept his Medicaid!

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

I find this "PT Barnum" definition of "The Trump"close to mine, which is a 'Carnival Snake Oil Salesman." I all his speeches he has never given any direct answers to how or what he will make Medical care affordable or what improvements there are in his plan "IF" Trump and the republican party truly want to make a change the American people "NEED" they would put their plan out for discussion rather than keep it a secret and just demand the Democrats accept it blindly - one thing I learned long ago is "The Answer To ALL Problems is ONE WORD - "COMMUNICATION"
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Texcaster wrote:

Well you have certainly trotted out all the conservative tropes and tired assertions. Trump is no John McCain, George Patton,or even a George Bush or a Richard Nixon. PT Barnum is the model for this cheap con man. Trump is the most emotionally and intellectually unfit person ever in the top job. Don't tell me ... "That's why we voted for him!!" Trump weasels around for Trump.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

BigBear wrote:

You misunderstood.
You have the right to worship or not to.
You don't have the right to stop someone else from doing so because you don't like what they are doing.

I'm fine with you praying. I don't see why it should be public and I don't want you to lead me in prayer. I don't want to be made to feel as though I'm obliged to participate. As an agnostic I'm not that offended by these things but I can sure see how someone who thinks your religion (not yours in particular, I don't know anything about your beliefs) is false and his participating in it would be heresy at best would be highly offended and quite possibly really stressed.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

ken hubert wrote:

Thom likes his Medicaid, Thom kept his Medicaid!

I'm not on medicaid, but I really don't like you using Medicaid as a pejorative. People who get medicaid should not be made to feel ashamed for it. You are being cruel, not to me, but to everyone who uses medicaid.

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

thom w wrote:

I'm not on medicaid, but I really don't like you using Medicaid as a pejorative. People who get medicaid should not be made to feel ashamed for it. You are being cruel, not to me, but to everyone who uses medicaid.

Yeah, I failed Diplomacy 101. Who cares!

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

thom w wrote:

I'm fine with you praying. I don't see why it should be public and I don't want you to lead me in prayer. I don't want to be made to feel as though I'm obliged to participate. As an agnostic I'm not that offended by these things but I can sure see how someone who thinks your religion (not yours in particular, I don't know anything about your beliefs) is false and his participating in it would be heresy at best would be highly offended and quite possibly really stressed.

Nobody has the right to push their beliefs onto someone else.
Each has the right to participate or not.
However, if you observe someone acting on their right to worship or whatever they do, you have the right to be offended if you so choose but not interfere unless they are being destructive or harmful to another person or creature.

An example is a group of students get together in their school cafeteria to pray or study their bible.
As long as they are peacefully meeting and not forcing others to join in, they have a right to continue.
If someone else observes them and becomes offended by their bible, they have the right to be offended and have the right to go someplace else.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

yes -As for praying I find no offence when it is done in a non intrusive way - those who do so and are - as they claim Biblical need to do a refresher course on Matthew 6

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BigBear wrote:

Nobody has the right to push their beliefs onto so... (show quote)

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

Harvey wrote:

yes -As for praying I find no offence when it is done in a non intrusive way - those who do so and are - as they claim Biblical need to do a refresher course on Matthew 6

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Can you clarify what you are trying to say ??

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

For the benefit of you and others not Bionically inclined - I am NOT a Bible thump-er or critic-in the New Testament Mathew 6 is Jesus's Sermon on The Mount where tells the people how and where they should pray - in short He tells them to find a quiet place by themselves to do their praying - not as the sinners do by standing on street corners and making a spectral of themselves.

I found this to be an informative reading as before reading this I had Never be instructed on praying - also upon looking up the description of prayer in the back of my First Bible I got at age 52 I found a very short definition - "Talking to God" and I am not much into talking to some one who is NOT there - someone/something is out there but in my opinion Not the God of the Bible.

BigBear wrote:

Can you clarify what you are trying to say ??

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

BigBear wrote:

Nobody has the right to push their beliefs onto so... (show quote)

Quietly praying, no problem, kneeling on a prayer rug to pray, no problem. Principal leading everyone in a public prayer, problem.

dljen Loc: Central PA

BigBear wrote:

Nobody has the right to push their beliefs onto so... (show quote)

Taxpayers pay for the lights, heat, etc. in that school cafeteria. I resent it being used in that way. No, they don't have that right. If they are so prayerful, let their legs walk them to a church. They can pray there all they want. I feel churches should be taxed also.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

Harvey wrote:

For the benefit of you and others not Bionically inclined - I am NOT a Bible thump-er or critic-in the New Testament Mathew 6 is Jesus's Sermon on The Mount where tells the people how and where they should pray - in short He tells them to find a quiet place by themselves to do their praying - not as the sinners do by standing on street corners and making a spectral of themselves.

I don't believe he meant that one is never to pray other than in hiding.
Christians are to be an example to the world by doing things for the right reason, not for calling attention to yourself.
You can't consider people to be sinners for meeting someplace public for prayer or fellowship.

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

dljen wrote:

Taxpayers pay for the lights, heat, etc. in that school cafeteria. I resent it being used in that way. No, they don't have that right. If they are so prayerful, let their legs walk them to a church. They can pray there all they want. I feel churches should be taxed also.

I resent that you are still breathing. Let your wheelchair take you onto the highway!

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

dljen wrote:

Taxpayers pay for the lights, heat, etc. in that school cafeteria. I resent it being used in that way. No, they don't have that right. If they are so prayerful, let their legs walk them to a church. They can pray there all they want. I feel churches should be taxed also.

The 1st amendment gives them the right to meet wherever they like regardless how you feel about it.
If you have a problem with the tax code, take it up with congress. I'm sure they can figure out how to get more from you.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

I don't interpret that one is meant to be in hidings but as being in solitude for clear personal thinking - a quiet time most anywhere is appropriate as well as - for a graduating class, a sports teams health and safety, a person or group of people 'WHO CARE TO JOIN IN" If not feel free to sit quietly.
As for what He meant - that as well as most all that Jesus was supposed to have said and what He meant will always be a subject of discussion.
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BigBear wrote:

I don't believe he meant that one is never to pray other than in hiding.
Christians are to be an example to the world by doing things for the right reason, not for calling attention to yourself.
You can't consider people to be sinners for meeting someplace public for prayer or fellowship.