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Jul 25, 2017 10:35:14   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
gmcase wrote:
Excellent and an antithesis to the excrementious lies synonymous with Progressivisim.



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Jul 25, 2017 10:39:51   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
BigBear wrote:
Medicaid isn't exactly a plan. It's a place where the majority of the people went who couldn't afford the plan that was offered.


While I wouldn't be embarrassed to use Medicaid if it was appropriate, that isn't my situation.

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Jul 25, 2017 10:42:45   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Than I doubt you are on an ACA policy.


I'm sure I'm not. I'm a bit confused. Are ACA policies the only ones available if one is not in a group plan? I thought as long as you aren't being subsidized, you could get any policy that you wanted and could afford.

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Jul 25, 2017 10:47:21   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
thom w wrote:
I'm sure I'm not. I'm a bit confused. Are ACA policies the only ones available if one is not in a group plan? I thought as long as you aren't being subsidized, you could get any policy that you wanted and could afford.


There is only one policy. The only choice is where you get it and for what price.

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Jul 25, 2017 10:48:31   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
juicesqueezer wrote:
I am glad that worked out for you! Unfortunately, many were not so lucky! OBC, whether you believe it or not, is failing and failing miserably. I am also not in favor of the other plans that have been tossed around either. The government should not be in the health care business, period! Insurance worked fine before Obama jumped in and decided it was time to really raise the national debt and pass OBC. Hmm, how's that working out for most? Not well.
What we do need is the ability to buy insurance across state lines! All insurance! Let the free market work, not cram a health care down our throats that the government has anything to do with!
I am glad that worked out for you! Unfortunately,... (show quote)


Insurance worked fine for some before Obama care.It worked for me but I've been in situations where it didn't work at all for me, long before Obama care. Before Obama care my policy cost my employer just over $1800 a month. Most people can't afford that. I'm guessing that under any government plan I would be a little worse off. I'm willing to accept that if it means everybody can have health care.

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Jul 25, 2017 10:50:25   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
BigBear wrote:
There is only one policy. The only choice is where you get it and for what price.


I thought there were Gold, Silver, and Bronze packages, and that the exchanges were one option. The only option if you are using a subsidy.

When I wasn't insured, before Obama care, I looked into an individual policy. They have always been rather restrictive, very expensive, and didn't cover so much.

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Jul 25, 2017 10:53:04   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
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Jul 25, 2017 10:56:56   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
BigBear wrote:
No !! It keeps the government out of religion.


If you allow religion into the government, doesn't government influence on religion automatically follow? If not explain.

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Jul 25, 2017 11:07:59   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
BigBear wrote:
When he moved back to Chicago.


No for once your wrong. Obama built a wall around his house in DC. Only interested in protecting himself and his family, not the people of the United States.

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Jul 25, 2017 11:12:12   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Wrangler wrote:
Oh Donna, everyone believes in God. Some believe in God the Father, some believe in Allah etc and some believe that they are god.


No, that's not true. I don't believe in a god. I take personal responsibility for what I do, I don't pray to an entity with wishes or hopes nor do I feel that "someone, something" is going to clean up my messes for me if I ask "him or her" to. I've never felt the need for a god.

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Jul 25, 2017 11:22:47   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
thom w wrote:
If you allow religion into the government, doesn't government influence on religion automatically follow? If not explain.


America was founded on religion. People have the freedom OF religion, not the freedom FROM it.
The government is restricted from creating laws that supports one religion over another or get involved with how any religion operates.
Religious organizations must adhere to the Constitution as well. The anti violent version of Islam is welcome, whereas the murderous animals of the violent side are not.

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Jul 25, 2017 11:32:20   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
BigBear wrote:
America was founded on religion. People have the freedom OF religion, not the freedom FROM it.
The government is restricted from creating laws that supports one religion over another or get involved with how any religion operates.
Religious organizations must adhere to the Constitution as well. The anti violent version of Islam is welcome, whereas the murderous animals of the violent side are not.


We just totally disagree. Why should I be free to worship any God I wish but not free to not worship any God at all?

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Jul 25, 2017 11:47:00   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
thom w wrote:
We just totally disagree. Why should I be free to worship any God I wish but not free to not worship any God at all?


You misunderstood.
You have the right to worship or not to.
You don't have the right to stop someone else from doing so because you don't like what they are doing.

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Jul 25, 2017 12:36:26   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Quit pissing on my shoe and telling me its raining!





juicesqueezer wrote:
“My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office.”

Here’s my answer: We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency. We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain? We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney? And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.

I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party. I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”

The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – till today. The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety. With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America ’s first wartime president in the Culture War.

During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming. Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”

General George Patton was a vulgar-talking, son-of-a-bitch. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.

Trump is fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!” That is just the icing on the cake, but it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – a book so essential to the Liberals’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis. It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.

Trump’s tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after “the fake media” — and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri — Trump isolated CNN. He made it personal. Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.” ... Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. ... They need to respond. This leaves them with only two choices. They can either “go high” (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve. It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive. Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright’s church. Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration’s cover-up. …

So, to my friends on the Left — and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do. These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 60 years. So, say anything you want about this president — I get it, he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He fights for America!"

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“My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #Never... (show quote)

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Jul 25, 2017 12:39:16   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
ole sarg wrote:
Quit pissing on my shoe and telling me its raining!



Ummm ... You're pissing on your own shoe ....

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