mtrunz Loc: Wheatfield, NY

If this were legit the seller would accept PayPal. We have each other's backs here on the Hog so sirens go off and scam alert flags go up when cash only offerings like this goes up. Take that weak ass bs somewhere else.

Woodworm65 Loc: Lombard, IL

T_Span Loc: Northern MI

Another want ad taken out and around, such childish behavior. With no substanial evidence you silly baggers claim this person has no honor and is a scammer. Skepticism is one thing but to slander a persons' reputation is another. You have no reason to make such statements and yourselves should be banned from this website. The seller prefers to meet in person to negotaite and make a cash sale. I too like to protect myself when selling online. Dirty minds have dirty thoughts. There are many good and honest people weather you believe it or not. A purchaser has many ways to protect themselves during an online negotiation and transaction. How about trying to be more civil and pick up some manners in keeping your nose in your own business.

leftj Loc: Texas

Oh, so it's ok for the seller to not trust us but we should kick common sense reasoning out the door and trust him implicitly.

T_Span Loc: Northern MI

The seller posted and ad with their preferences. It is up to a sincere purchaser to discuss terms and either come to an agreement or not. Mature adults do this quite often.

What some members posted here could possibly get them laid out and bleeding if it had been said in person. If you posted an ad on any website and a handful of goobers came to your thread with flames, would you be angry? There is nothing from the OP's post that would justify the slanderous remarks made in this thread.

This is the only website that I frequent that allows such poor behavior in its classifieds. None come anywhere close to the abusive nature of some of these members here. Go take a look around: Fred Miranda, Nikonians, DPReview, Nikonites, Pentaxforums or any other.

leftj Loc: Texas

Sorry but if you can't see that something was off on the ad then you have your head deep in the sand.

T_Span Loc: Northern MI

A recent membership or your paranoia proves nothing. There is no evidence to find this person guilty of being a scammer. Could they be? Yes. What I see is a person who could be a scammer or possible asset to this forum, but they are probably now gone with the wind. Prefering to deal local and in cash is pretty common for many online transactions. That does not mean a scam being hatched.

You are a member of this community, yes? Do you also jump in people's faces the first time you meet them in your "real" community? Mature adults don't jump to baseless conclusions.

leftj Loc: Texas

And people with their heads in the sand fail to catch the warning signs.

mtrunz Loc: Wheatfield, NY

Like I said, we have each other's backs here on the Hog. That's what separates us from the "other" sites you mentioned. You're certainly entitled to your opinion but so are we and if that's a problem for you then no one is forcing you to return.

Vinman

I have swapped lenses with another Hog with no type
of security and everything was done on trust.

Yes we trust each other. Did this seller show a lot of trust
by not even accepting Pay Pal and only cash.

This type of sale always raises suspicion and we just alerted each other.

T_Span Loc: Northern MI

Yes we all have our opinions. Do you have a problem with people for the sole reason they have differing opinions? Are you willing to push good and decent people away because they have a more objective vision? The OP who posted this for sale ad could be one of two types.

For this demonstration I will accept yours and some others assertions that the poster is a scammer. What member of this site or any other would wrap up a couple thousand dollars cash, place in an envelope and mail off to San Diego? If in fact there was a member inclined to do so and you called a scammer out which saved the member the loss of hard earned cash, good for. No harm and no foul. You are the hero of the day.

Now consider this. A person has a legitimately owned property and would like to post the for sale ad here. You or someone else calls out the unsubstantiated “scammer” word. You or someone else has committed slander. Is slander acceptable in your community? So, the possible sale from this ad never takes place. Now there has been harm done to the chance of sale and the ad poster’s credibility. Two fouls.

In the case of a scammer, I say good riddance. In the second case, how can you or another member be so dense as to push away a potential friendship. This person could have some valuable future contributions for this communities benefit. I for one, will not tell a lie, cheat or steal. I can be successful the good old fashioned and honorable way, but, I will not do business with paypal. Did that in the early days and found their rising fees too much for my taste. Does that make me a scammer?

leftj Loc: Texas

Actually your entire set of dissertations posted on this subject makes you appear naive.

Basil Loc: New Mexico

He clearly posted an image from the Apple info screen showing it as a Mid-2015, He just said he bought it new in 2017, which is very possible.

leftj Loc: Texas

A 2015 MBP is not new in 2017.

T_Span Loc: Northern MI

[quote=infin8truths]Purchased new in March 2017, and is covered by Applecare until March 2020.

With tax and Applecare was over $2800, not to mention the $1800 in software, so I think $2200 is fair. I'm willing consider reasonable offers, but I will not respond to lowball.

Cash Only. No Trades, no credit cards, no paypal, no wire transfers, no cashiers checks, no partial payments, no scams. Would prefer local sale in San Diego as that's where I'm located. If you're not local and are a serious buyer we can discuss how to work something out, but know upfront I will not ship it anywhere without full payment received and cleared first, and I will not ship outside US. Sorry to seem so serious, but there are just too scams out there, and I won't risk being burned.
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This is the information provided by the OP. Why are some members here adamant in smearing the poster of the ad? What do you gain by voicing your negativity?