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Jul 11, 2017 12:42:00   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
I wonder what you think would be gained by switching to a full frame camera. The most significant difference is that full frame cameras do better in rather low light situations. However, to accomplish that you have heavier, larger, and much more expensive bodies and lenses. While you get wider angles of view from the same lenses, this is good for landscapes, but bad for birds and wildlife or anything requiring telephoto.

Image quality? IMHO - With today's equipment images of more than adequate quality for most applications are achievable with an APS-C body if the lens is good.

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Jul 11, 2017 12:43:01   #
Hbuk66 Loc: Oswego, NY
 
But $1000 will get better glass, in fact much better than the 18-55; which was the original question...

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Jul 11, 2017 12:46:12   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
rehess wrote:
It's not going to purchase top anything!!


Right now it does not matter because his body is not top either - TOP glass needs TOP body .....but he CAN improve from where he is NOW.

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Jul 11, 2017 12:48:47   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
speters wrote:
Around a thousand bucks, is just not going to get you top-glass!!


It depends on what the OP wants to accomplish. $1,000 gets a nice Sigma Art lens. $799 gets the 18-35 1.8.

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Jul 11, 2017 12:53:02   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
daveptt wrote:
Hearing you fellows talk, as an 89 year old who earnt his living from photography, I wonder how we managed to take any pictures at all, the most important thing is who is behind the camera, top gear does not make top photographers, know your composition, know your light, know your subject, and then shoot a great picture. People won't be able to tell what camera you have or care.



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Jul 11, 2017 12:53:22   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
imagemeister wrote:
Right now it does not matter because his body is not top either - TOP glass needs TOP body .....but he CAN improve from where he is NOW.
That was basically my point - insisting on TOP would be self-defeating in this case.

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Jul 11, 2017 12:58:07   #
mineart
 
You date your camera, you marry your glass.

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Jul 11, 2017 13:09:02   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rehess wrote:
It's not going to purchase top anything!!


Depends on where you buy it and whether you buy used/refurb. There are any number of Canon L series lenses that can be bought used or refurb for 1K or less, and I believe they would be considered top glass. Example: there's a 100-400L Mk1 on UHH right now for $850, other L series that can be bought for 1K or less include the 70-200 f2.8L IS MK1, 135 F2L, 24-105 f4L, 16-35 f4L, 17-40 f4L, 100 f2.8 L IS Macro, etc. There are certainly faster or MKII versions that cost $2K, but none of the ones I mentioned would be considered mediocre (at least, not by me).

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Jul 11, 2017 13:10:10   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Another thought on bodies. The T5i is in the Rebel series. There are upgrade possibilities that are not full frame, such as the 80D, or the 7D Mk II. Of course, recent earlier versions of those could be considered like the 7D or 70D.

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Jul 11, 2017 13:11:31   #
Jerrin1 Loc: Wolverhampton, England
 
Steverhyde wrote:
Like many of you, I have limited $$$, but I want to upgrade the technical quality of photos I take. I am not a professional but I love taking pix of landscapes and family, and I have +/- $1,000 to spend. Am I better off to upgrade the glass (I have an out-of the-box Canon 18 - 55 lens and an inexpensive 75 - 300 Canon) or to buy a full frame camera body (I have an acceptable Canon T5i).

Thanks for any feedback.


I don't know the T5i as I believe it is a USA model, however, if the camera still suits your purpose consider buying good quality, second hand lenses. Though I have always bought new camera bodies I have owned several used, top quality lenses: including a Canon 300mm f2.8L IS and currently, a Sigma 180mm f2.8 OS macro. Savings can be considerable - just be sure you use a reputable seller.

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Jul 11, 2017 13:21:31   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
I think we are at a dead end until the OP comes back and provides a little more detail on what they really need.

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Jul 11, 2017 14:05:51   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
dsmeltz wrote:
I think we are at a dead end until the OP comes back and provides a little more detail on what they really need.

You are 100% correct.

Back on page 1 we asked for more details, but original post remains OP's one-and-only post, so we've just been talking to ourselves for the past three pages.

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Jul 11, 2017 14:17:20   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Steverhyde wrote:
Like many of you, I have limited $$$, but I want to upgrade the technical quality of photos I take. I am not a professional but I love taking pix of landscapes and family, and I have +/- $1,000 to spend. Am I better off to upgrade the glass (I have an out-of the-box Canon 18 - 55 lens and an inexpensive 75 - 300 Canon) or to buy a full frame camera body (I have an acceptable Canon T5i).

Thanks for any feedback.

If you are prudent, you’ll first decide what you need, and why you need it.

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Jul 11, 2017 14:43:17   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
imagemeister wrote:
Lens selection is not just about DXO or MTF numbers either ! ......Zoom range, maximum f-stop size, price, size/weight and more will/should also enter the decision.



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Jul 11, 2017 16:20:46   #
Maik723
 
One word........................GLASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

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