volnqlt wrote:
Ready to move up to a dslr. Previously had Canon and loved it but old 35mm. Need something new. Want to capture wildlife and flowers and be able to blow up images as basis for creating art quilts. 80D reviews seem better than 77D. D5600 or D7500. Which would be best? Plan on keeping this camera for a long time so willing to pay more to get the best. Appreciate any feedback.
I would most very strongly recommend that you purchase a Refurbished, Nikon D7200, Body, for (dirt cheap, relatively speaking, of course), from either: Nikon sales directly, or much better yet, from the wonderful Photographic Store in New York City, called, B & H Photo-Video, on-line, @
www.b&hphotovideo.com, for only, $779.00!
Then shop for it's excellent and fantastic, extremely sharp "kit" zoom lens. This lens, is a Nikkor AF-S DX 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6 G VR, and it normally sells for $499.00.
However, if you "really shop around for it", you might, be able to locate it, for a lower price. It is, well worth, it's $499.00, regular price. But, I did, see one last month, somewhere, being sold for $399.00!!! (This is very rare!!!) It is possible, that I may have seen it at that price on EBay!
This lens, is extremely sharp at all of its apertures and focal lengths, according to DP Reviews tests! I have it and can attest to that!
As for the Nikon D7200 camera, there is just no better camera around. It consistently produces the very sharpest images that you could imagine! It's also a perfect camera for all general purpose photography, and it's built like a tank, and its weather proof.
I am an extremely picky man, and I spent an exorbitant amount of time, so very carefully, reading up, on all of the different comparable, mid-range DSLR cameras, that are on the market. I spent literally hundreds of hours, for months, studying every bit of information, that I could possibly obtain, from all of the organizations, that test these cameras, and rate them, as well as from consumer publications, and I also spoke with people who actually own many of these cameras, and I handled all of them myself.
I narrowed my search down to the Nikon D7200, Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark II, Canon EOS 7D Mark II, Canon EOS 80D, Sony A6300, Fuji Xt2 & Fuji Pro2. Some of these, being more expensive than others, price was not a limiting factor to me, up to the point of those cameras; and the Nikon D500 hadn't been released yet.
What I wanted was the very best, all around use, camera, that would serve me, the best overall, in all ways considered overall, and its manufacturer offering the full, and complete array, of extremely fine lenses, available in
all sizes, and types, as well as other system accessories; this being of lesser importance to me, however.
****NOW, THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CAMERA"S DIGITAL IMAGE SENSOR: THIS BEING THE VERY, VERY, HEART OF THAT ENTIRE CAMERA!!! THAT SINGLE DEVICE, BEING WHAT TAKES THE OPTICAL IMAGE, WHICH COMES THROUGH THAT ALL IMPORTANT, AND SO VERY CHERISHED, AND WORSHIPPED LENS!!! AND THEN, WITH YOUR RESULTANT EXPOSURE SETTINGS, BEING APPLIED....THAT OPTICAL IMAGE IS APPLIED TO THAT .... VERY ALL...
IMPORTANT DIGITAL IMAGE SENSOR...WHICH HAS THE JOB, OF TRANSFERRING THE LIGHT'S PHOTONS, INTO AN ELECTRICAL IMAGE....AND ITS PERFORMANCE, IN CARRYING OUT THIS OPERATION....DOES DICTATE, EVERYTHING!
REGARDING, HOW LIFE-LIKE, YOUR, PHOTOGRAPHIC IMAGE, WILL BE!!!
THEREFORE: THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CAMERA'S DIGITAL IMAGE SENSOR, was of course, of the very greatest importance to me!
I studied and learned, that all, of the Nikon, camera's, absolutely and completely excelled, in all, of their measured, and documented aspects, regarding their camera's, sensor performance! And, that this, translated into, superior quality images that the Nikon camera's produced. And, this, was very important to me!
This is what, it is, all about really! Everything else, is simply add-ons, and relative "fluff", to the final quality, of the images.
Also, this D7200 camera, handles very nicely, in every possible way, and it is laid out, extremely sensibly, and it's viewfinder, and focusing, are superlative, as are all other aspects of it! I have had it for a year now, and have never been so very satisfied, by any product, in all of my life!
I would very highly recommend it, to anyone! I certainly could not say that, for its competitors, for various different reasons, although, in their own rights, they are all, also, very extremely, nice, photographic tools, as well!!!... Rob.
PS - I advise you, not to go near to, the Nikon D7500, camera...it is, an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT, AND INFERIOR, Camera to the D7200. It is, a very nice camera, IN ITS OWN RIGHT!
Yet, IT DOESN'T HOLD A CANDLE TO THE D7200...There are technical reasons...beyond those that are often spouted off in this forum. It is, an inferior camera, TO THE 7200.... (It is a very fine camera in its own right, on its own merits.)
You, purchase, what you,... choose, to....it will be YOUR own camera. I would buy the D7200 if I was to select between THE TWO OF THEM! That is my own educated opinion.
Have a very great day and really enjoy your summer.
7500 IS NOT THE UPGRADE TO THE D7200 AND IT IS NOT THE "LITTLE BROTHER" TO THE D500!!! (Scoff!)
7500 = is a camera that Nikon chose to slap together for its marketing and sales purposes to make money on!
PS- D7200 has better image quality than Canon 80D and is a better Camera; also well worth getting the D7200 over the D5600.. Another world, and class of camera, that you'll really love, and be so glad to use, and enjoy! It's the real deal. Then buy "Thom Hogan's D7200 Guide", (an EBook for $29.00, 900 pgs and also, Dave Busch's "Guide To The Nikon D7200", from Amazon.com, for $29.00, 500 pgs, these are very important for you, to REALLY learn, all about the camera, very thoroughly, (at least the Busche Guide book!) ...These camera's are so advanced in many ways.
The more that you learn about it, the more confident, and the better that you'll be able to handle it w/o thinking about it. Have lots of fun...It's a wonderful journey. Rob.
PS- The lens I recommended to you, is completely vibration controlled. That's what the VR means. It allows you to shoot with reduced handheld shutter speed, so that you can hold the camera in lower light and get a shake free exposure by up to, a full 4 stops! It really works too! So, if you were shooting indoors, in low light, and you needed to shoot at 1/30th of a second for your proper exposure, than using that lens's Vibration Resistance feature, you would actually able, to use a shutter speed, up to 4 stops, lower, or, down to a 1/2 a second, and still get your shot! (IF, your subject, remained still!) That VR. operates all of the time, and it gives you, extremely crisp images! It is, a super nice, lens! Get it, and, you'll love it! I really do!
I have five Nikon lenses, and I can hardly ever bring myself, to take that one, off of my camera! Because, it's just such a perfect all around lens! ...It's compact, lightweight, relatively fast, and bright, and has such a very wide and convenient zoom range! It's 18-140mm equate to a 35mm equiliquivilance (mounted on the D7200 with its 1.5X Crop Factor, of 27mm to 210mm which is such a very useful range of focal lengths!