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May 24, 2017 10:01:52   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Dngallagher wrote:
All raw converters require updating when used with a new camera, it is not just an Adobe issue

The ability of an iPad to read a given raw file will depend on what version of raw converter the IOS has built in


I suspect that is true. Unless the Apple folk have figured out how to find and display a jpeg anywhere within a RAW file.

Has anyone had it not work with a RAW file, particularly with a new camera model?

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May 24, 2017 10:14:15   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MtnMan wrote:
I suspect that is true. Unless the Apple folk have figured out how to find and display a jpeg anywhere within a RAW file.

Has anyone had it not work with a RAW file, particularly with a new camera model?


According to Apple, on an iPad you are seeing embedded jpgs in the raw file, so the jpg thumbnail benefits from in camera processing, explains why they might be more useable for quick uploads

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204977

Raw on an iPad addressed in final paragraph

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May 24, 2017 10:17:51   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Dngallagher wrote:
According to Apple, on an iPad you are seeing embedded jpgs in the raw file, so the jpg thumbnail benefits from in camera processing, explains why they might be more useable for quick uploads

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204977

Raw on an iPad addressed in final paragraph


Thanks! That answers the question.

Careful reading also suggests why the RAW files take longer to upload. Even though they display the jpeg they do actually upload the RAW file. I wonder why Adobe doesn't do that?

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May 24, 2017 10:31:14   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MtnMan wrote:
Thanks! That answers the question.

Careful reading also suggests why the RAW files take longer to upload. Even though they display the jpeg they do actually upload the RAW file. I wonder why Adobe doesn't do that?


Lightroom can export/upload the raw file, in the export select original instead of jpg, but the raw/original will be unedited, as it came from the camera

With Adobe, the raw is the untouched negative, in most cases the user would want an edited JPG to be exported, but the option to export the original is easy to do

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May 24, 2017 12:55:30   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Lightroom can export/upload the raw file, in the export select original instead of jpg, but the raw/original will be unedited, as it came from the camera

With Adobe, the raw is the untouched negative, in most cases the user would want an edited JPG to be exported, but the option to export the original is easy to do


I know how Lightroom works. My comment was in regard to how it reacts to new RAW file formats. From postings here I understand it rejects imports of RAW files from new cameras.

I understand this includes, for example, .nef files from new Nikon cameras. Even though they have the same file extension as older Nikon camera files it does import.

E.g. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3923480

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May 24, 2017 13:15:53   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MtnMan wrote:
I know how Lightroom works. My comment was in regard to how it reacts to new RAW file formats. From postings here I understand it rejects imports of RAW files from new cameras.

I understand this includes, for example, .nef files from new Nikon cameras. Even though they have the same file extension as older Nikon camera files it does import.

E.g. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3923480


Any editor will reject raw files from new cameras until that raw converter is updated to include that raw format

In most cases, with Nikon anyway, the main difference was the camera name inside the raw file, for example when the Nikon d7100 came out the raw files were unreadable yet the difference was mainly the D7100 vs D7000 in text within the file, change D7100 to D7000 and it was editable in the old converter

Changing the camera identifier was a hack that could be done to convert and edit until the raw converter was updated

For me, getting to an embedded jpg only negates the reasons to shoot raw.

BTW - you will probably find that as newer cameras come out, IOS may lose the ability to extract the embedded jpgs within the newer raw images until the IOS is updated

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207049

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May 24, 2017 15:59:30   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Any editor will reject raw files from new cameras until that raw converter is updated to include that raw format

In most cases, with Nikon anyway, the main difference was the camera name inside the raw file, for example when the Nikon d7100 came out the raw files were unreadable yet the difference was mainly the D7100 vs D7000 in text within the file, change D7100 to D7000 and it was editable in the old converter

Changing the camera identifier was a hack that could be done to convert and edit until the raw converter was updated

For me, getting to an embedded jpg only negates the reasons to shoot raw.

BTW - you will probably find that as newer cameras come out, IOS may lose the ability to extract the embedded jpgs within the newer raw images until the IOS is updated

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207049
Any editor will reject raw files from new cameras ... (show quote)


Thanks for that info!

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May 24, 2017 21:32:35   #
Paul Buckhiester Loc: Columbus, GA USA
 
MtnMan wrote:
Got one of these based on thread on UHH. Much to my surprise it happily uploaded RAW images from my D800 and jpegs from my Lumix GM5. It will greatly simplify uploading images here and to Facebook.

I'm not sure it is uploading the actual RAW images vs. the embedded jpegs. Anyone know?

I'm pretty sure it will work the same with my new iPhone 7.

I also found the Apple photo program to be more adept at editing than I thought.


They are raw files. Auto import to LR mobile and they will appear in LR on your computer. Pretty cool.

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May 25, 2017 09:39:16   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Paul Buckhiester wrote:
They are raw files. Auto import to LR mobile and they will appear in LR on your computer. Pretty cool.


I still use Lightroom 6 so mobile doesn't work for me.

I need to figure out how to use Google or something to do that.

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May 25, 2017 09:46:01   #
Paul Buckhiester Loc: Columbus, GA USA
 
Understand. Highly recommend CC.

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