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May 22, 2017 15:22:11   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Got one of these based on thread on UHH. Much to my surprise it happily uploaded RAW images from my D800 and jpegs from my Lumix GM5. It will greatly simplify uploading images here and to Facebook.

I'm not sure it is uploading the actual RAW images vs. the embedded jpegs. Anyone know?

I'm pretty sure it will work the same with my new iPhone 7.

I also found the Apple photo program to be more adept at editing than I thought.

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May 22, 2017 15:49:39   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MtnMan wrote:
Got one of these based on thread on UHH. Much to my surprise it happily uploaded RAW images from my D800 and jpegs from my Lumix GM5. It will greatly simplify uploading images here and to Facebook.

I'm not sure it is uploading the actual RAW images vs. the embedded jpegs. Anyone know?

I'm pretty sure it will work the same with my new iPhone 7.

I also found the Apple photo program to be more adept at editing than I thought.


Depends on what you mean by uploading ;)

A raw file is unviewable until it is converted from the raw format to a JPG or TIFF file by software.

If you downloaded the raw files (.NEF) into Apple Photos - the software first made the raw file viewable by creating a preview. You can then edit the previews and export a completed JPG or TIFF file (There are additional image formats that can be exported)

So, the question becomes - did you upload an original raw (.NEF) file, or an exported JPG file?

FWIW - Typical workflow for me is:

Shoot raw, view and select raw files from SD card using RastRawViewer, import selected raw files into Lightroom from SD card, convert imported raw files to DNG files, edit DNG files in Lightroom and/or Photoshop, rate edited photos in Lightroom, publish selected photos on Flicker as 3000x2000 8 bit JPG files, original DNG'S remain on my disk as 16 bit 6000x4000 files.

I do not upload any raw files, always edited JPG files.

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May 22, 2017 19:03:35   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Depends on what you mean by uploading ;)

A raw file is unviewable until it is converted from the raw format to a JPG or TIFF file by software.

If you downloaded the raw files (.NEF) into Apple Photos - the software first made the raw file viewable by creating a preview. You can then edit the previews and export a completed JPG or TIFF file (There are additional image formats that can be exported)

So, the question becomes - did you upload an original raw (.NEF) file, or an exported JPG file?

FWIW - Typical workflow for me is:

Shoot raw, view and select raw files from SD card using RastRawViewer, import selected raw files into Lightroom from SD card, convert imported raw files to DNG files, edit DNG files in Lightroom and/or Photoshop, rate edited photos in Lightroom, publish selected photos on Flicker as 3000x2000 8 bit JPG files, original DNG'S remain on my disk as 16 bit 6000x4000 files.

I do not upload any raw files, always edited JPG files.
Depends on what you mean by uploading ;) br br A... (show quote)


Tried uploading a .nef file. It took longer than uploading jpegs. I'll check file size on the ipad.

I am seeking to avoid the Lightroom loop.

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May 22, 2017 19:53:43   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MtnMan wrote:
Tried uploading a .nef file. It took longer than uploading jpegs. I'll check file size on the ipad.

I am seeking to avoid the Lightroom loop.


A raw file will be much larger than a jpg, but why do you want to upload a raw file?

A raw file will always need some post processing to sharpen and adjust other settings because zero processing is done in camera

When you shoot jpg, basically the camera processes a raw based on the camera settings and outputs a jpg, when you shoot raw, the camera writes the raw file as sensor data with no adjustments from camera settings

I find in most cases I adjust sharpening, contrast, and color on most of my raw shots at a minimum before outputting a finished jpg or tiff

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May 22, 2017 22:34:08   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Dngallagher wrote:
A raw file will be much larger than a jpg, but why do you want to upload a raw file?

A raw file will always need some post processing to sharpen and adjust other settings because zero processing is done in camera

When you shoot jpg, basically the camera processes a raw based on the camera settings and outputs a jpg, when you shoot raw, the camera writes the raw file as sensor data with no adjustments from camera settings

I find in most cases I adjust sharpening, contrast, and color on most of my raw shots at a minimum before outputting a finished jpg or tiff
A raw file will be much larger than a jpg, but why... (show quote)


The idea is simplicity. I shoot in RAW.

When planning for quick upload I can set the camera to do both. The jpegs are good enough for upload.

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May 23, 2017 06:32:57   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MtnMan wrote:
The idea is simplicity. I shoot in RAW.

When planning for quick upload I can set the camera to do both. The jpegs are good enough for upload.


I shoot in raw myself, but simplicity has nothing to do with it since every shot then requires processing and tweaking.

I do it to get all the detail and dynamic range from all the captured data instead of throwing it away as the camera converts to a jpg

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May 23, 2017 10:13:00   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Dngallagher wrote:
I shoot in raw myself, but simplicity has nothing to do with it since every shot then requires processing and tweaking.

I do it to get all the detail and dynamic range from all the captured data instead of throwing it away as the camera converts to a jpg


The point is that the ipad uploads a usable image. Try it.

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May 23, 2017 10:25:38   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MtnMan wrote:
The point is that the ipad uploads a usable image. Try it.


It may, but it would be an unedited jpg version of the raw file, not what the image would look like after proper processing right?

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May 23, 2017 12:32:35   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Dngallagher wrote:
It may, but it would be an unedited jpg version of the raw file, not what the image would look like after proper processing right?


They look surprisingly good. I'm still wondering if it is the embedded jpeg or applies the camera settings.

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May 23, 2017 13:15:10   #
wpas
 
The Apple Lightning to SD Card Camera Reader will take almost any SD card type of any size according to Apple. Just make sure you have enough memory in your iPad. Here is a link to the card reader https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202037

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May 23, 2017 13:31:35   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MtnMan wrote:
They look surprisingly good. I'm still wondering if it is the embedded jpeg or applies the camera settings.


Normally, the camera settings would not be applied to the raw image, unless using the makers software that can read and deal with the camera settings to produce a jpg exactly like shooting jpg

Or you may be pulling an embedded jpg from the raw

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May 23, 2017 13:47:08   #
LessN2 Loc: Texas
 
For what it's worth and not sure it adds much to the conversation.
I recently took some photos of a coyote, running full speed towards a donkey carcass. There was a turkey vulture there having lunch and I caught the coyote jumping up barely missing the vulture as it was taking flight. Focus was off and not sharp. Anyway, I thought it was cool enough for my Facebook friends.
I used the Canon 80D wifi and transferred the image to my iPhone 7plus. I then cropped and posted directly to Facebook no problems. Camera set to RAW only.
I'm thinking it just transferred the jpeg version to the phone.
I was hurrying as I was needing to leave for work, thinking I'd have to edit the RAW file on the phone later before posting. Turns out I didn't have to, so posted it right then.

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May 23, 2017 15:23:18   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
LessN2 wrote:
For what it's worth and not sure it adds much to the conversation.
I recently took some photos of a coyote, running full speed towards a donkey carcass. There was a turkey vulture there having lunch and I caught the coyote jumping up barely missing the vulture as it was taking flight. Focus was off and not sharp. Anyway, I thought it was cool enough for my Facebook friends.
I used the Canon 80D wifi and transferred the image to my iPhone 7plus. I then cropped and posted directly to Facebook no problems. Camera set to RAW only.
I'm thinking it just transferred the jpeg version to the phone.
I was hurrying as I was needing to leave for work, thinking I'd have to edit the RAW file on the phone later before posting. Turns out I didn't have to, so posted it right then.
For what it's worth and not sure it adds much to t... (show quote)


That is the same thing I saw with Nikon .nef file. As I noted originally, it might be using the jpeg embedded in the RAW file. The only thing that makes me suspect otherwise is that it is much slower uploading the .nef files than a jpeg file. But maybe it just needs to find the jpeg in the .nef file.

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May 23, 2017 15:25:48   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
wpas wrote:
The Apple Lightning to SD Card Camera Reader will take almost any SD card type of any size according to Apple. Just make sure you have enough memory in your iPad. Here is a link to the card reader https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202037


We know that. This thread isn't questioning the card.

The surprising thing is that it also takes RAW files on the card and displays images of them. If you try that on a computer without the appropriate software it won't display the image and might give you an error message. People often even struggle with new cameras and the Adobe programs until Adobe gets around to updates that have what is necessary for the new camera's RAW format.

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May 23, 2017 16:19:12   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MtnMan wrote:
We know that. This thread isn't questioning the card.

The surprising thing is that it also takes RAW files on the card and displays images of them. If you try that on a computer without the appropriate software it won't display the image and might give you an error message. People often even struggle with new cameras and the Adobe programs until Adobe gets around to updates that have what is necessary for the new camera's RAW format.


All raw converters require updating when used with a new camera, it is not just an Adobe issue

The ability of an iPad to read a given raw file will depend on what version of raw converter the IOS has built in

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