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May 18, 2017 15:44:19   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
Just Fred wrote:
I am really appreciative of all the replies here. I never thought this topic would generate as much interest as it has. Even those who didn't really have much to add ("ditch the Nikon, get a Canon") have had their voices heard and weighed. I think the general consensus is that I may have landed a dud; that Nikon cameras can survive the worst possible extremes and still produce award-winning photographs. As I mentioned in my previous reply, I think I will take the D7100 body to the shop where I bought it, and see if I can't use it as a partial down payment on a D7500 body.

Since the D7500 isn't yet publicly available, does anyone have some form of comparison between it and the D7200?
I am really appreciative of all the replies here. ... (show quote)


Ok, some of us might jump into this one. Consider getting the Nikon D500. I bought a slightly used one from a local store. A guy bought it walked out used it for an hour and returned it for a Canon. I love my D500 and use it almost every.

Here is a comparison of the D7200 and D7500
https://youtu.be/B9tRpvCUKHA

Here is one comparing the D7500 to the D500

https://youtu.be/IHDL51Jg3kc

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May 18, 2017 15:49:15   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
Just Fred wrote:
I am really appreciative of all the replies here. I never thought this topic would generate as much interest as it has. Even those who didn't really have much to add ("ditch the Nikon, get a Canon") have had their voices heard and weighed. I think the general consensus is that I may have landed a dud; that Nikon cameras can survive the worst possible extremes and still produce award-winning photographs. As I mentioned in my previous reply, I think I will take the D7100 body to the shop where I bought it, and see if I can't use it as a partial down payment on a D7500 body.

Since the D7500 isn't yet publicly available, does anyone have some form of comparison between it and the D7200?
I am really appreciative of all the replies here. ... (show quote)


Refurbished Nikon D500

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1311631-REG

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May 18, 2017 15:55:11   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
Top ten Nikon D500 features.

https://youtu.be/RNwsMYpmaEk

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May 18, 2017 16:05:34   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Just Fred wrote:
Bob, the first time it happened, the kit lens that came with it (a very nice 18-140mm) also had to be repaired. Although I never dropped it or mishandled it, I am willing to believe that someone cleaning my ship's cabin on a cruise may have accidentally bumped it. However, the second occurrence came about five months later, and no lens was (evidently) involved.

Part of my conundrum comes from Nikon's response to my issue: All repairs are said to be warranted for six months. Believing that my camera fell under warranty repair after less than that, I was a bit put off by Nikon's claim that "damage due to drops" is not warranted, and that I would have to pay for the same repair again. Since I have no way of proving a negative (that I didn't drop the camera), I had no choice but to pony up and pay again.

I won't pay a third time. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. The best way to prevent a third occurrence is by not using the camera.
Bob, the first time it happened, the kit lens that... (show quote)


Fool me once shame on, uh, you; fool me twice shame on, uh, me; fool me again, uh, uh, so, don't fool me again. George Bush, Orator Extraordinaire

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May 18, 2017 16:07:13   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
Pepper wrote:


Perfect. Thank you, Pepper!

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May 18, 2017 16:07:19   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Just Fred wrote:
About three years ago I decided to jump head first into the digital photography pool and purchased a Nikon D7100 and full complement of lenses, filters, flash, tripod, monopod, etc. It was light years better than the compact Nikon 1 J1 I had been using, which in itself was light years ahead of the Fuji FX45 pocket camera I had used before.

But, as some of you know, I suffered several unexplainable "breaks" that necessitated trips to Nikon and resulted in costly (~$500) repairs -- both times to the lens mount. I profess to be very careful with my camera equipment (and to other things I value: cars, guns, guitars, etc.), so these "breaks" concern me.

They concern so much, in fact, that I have become very reluctant to take my D7100 out of its carry case. I even went so far as to purchase a Coolpix P900, which I took on my recent cruise. If I have a gun I rely upon to carry every day and I lose faith in its ability to work reliably, every time, I might as well not carry it, right? I have the same feeling about my D7100.

So what do I do? I have a lot invested in said camera equipment. I suppose I could sell the body and replace it with some other Nikon (DX, I guess), or dump the whole lot and look at Canon, Sony, etc.

I've never been good on private sales. I'd probably take a big hit if I sold it to a shop, but I don't know anyone who I could approach to handle a sale for me.

This is my conundrum: Sell the D7100 and move on, or keep it and try to get over my angst about it (and if it goes "kablooey" one more time...)?
About three years ago I decided to jump head first... (show quote)

If you don't use it, then it becomes an awfully expensive paperweight!

My first Cadillac has a similar problem. The battery kept going dead. Replaced it twice, then the dealer determined I had a bad alternator and replaced it, outside of warranty. I decided to leave it parked in the garage. Couldn't rely on it to get me home if I went out. Every month, I would make the car payment, go out to the garage and crank the engine. Fired right up, revved up, begging to be driven. eased it out into the driveway and around the block a couple of times. But there was no way I was going to leave the house in that car. Rode my bicycle instead. Got soaking wet a few times, but that car didn't fool me!

Then I thought about selling it on AutoTrader, as is... but couldn't decide what to do. Might take it back to the dealership (hoping it got me there) and trade for a Toyota or BMW. I might take a hit on the trade-in, but it's a practically new car with less than 12000 miles on it. What to do, what to do?

ok, so everything I typed after "repaired outside of warranty" is BS, but I got a lot of enjoyment for many years driving that vehicle. Get my drift ...
Just do it, Just Fred!

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May 18, 2017 16:39:48   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
Bobspez wrote:
Did the lens mount breaks happen with very heavy telephoto lenses? I've never heard of that sort of a break.


Oh yeah, I dropped my D810 with AFS 300mm f/4 lens attached and the bayonet mount broke off the body. I was on safari at the time and had
a great selection of lens to use with NO BODY! Luckily I was able to pick up a used D7000 from my guide and keep shooting. The repair shop that
fixed it advised me that Nikon designs their bodies such that the mount will break off the body rather than the lens since the lenses are more expensive
to repair.

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May 18, 2017 16:57:46   #
erinjay64
 
If using a long lens, put the tripod under the lens, rather than on the camera, to shift the weight, and reduce the stress on the mount.

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May 18, 2017 17:12:21   #
erinjay64
 
I have owned dozens of cameras over the decades, and never dropped, bumped, or had the sort of breakage OP mentions on, any of them in all that time. I handle my cameras well, keep them packed up when not in use, and do not let others handle them unsupervised. I have owned: Nikons, Canons, Pentaxes, Olympuses, Minoltas, Yaschicas, Kodaks, Lubitels, Mamiyas, 110s, 35mms, 6x6cms, 6x7cms, DXes, FXes, one inchers, etc....some new, and others used. I'd guess that anyone who breaks so many cameras as OP has is either: very clumsy, or very, very, unlucky, or Epileptic. Either that, or he allows drunks, and stoners, to handle his gear while he is out of the room. Perhaps he just buys well used gear which is about to go to The Big Camera Shop In The Sky, and so is due to break soon. Who can tell? It would be interesting to learn.

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May 18, 2017 18:26:15   #
CathyAnn Loc: Apache Junction, AZ
 
ndncowboy wrote:
I hate reading things like this. I just got a D7100 and have wondered how robust it might be. I wanted to take it with me on my motorcycle where I sometimes see great photo opportunities. Used to do it all the time with a Minolta. Beginning to sound like my stupid camera phone is safer and just pamper this expensive thing. That kinda ruins the whole reason to get a good camera. Didn't realize these things are so fragile. Damn!!! :(


I have a D7100 and have had no problems whatsoever with it. Others have too. I think this problem is an anomaly, that something happened to it. Please don't let this specific problem scare you, make you afraid to use your camera. I find mine is rugged and performs perfectly. You will find yours functions well too.

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May 18, 2017 18:28:37   #
KWB1958
 
I've owned a d7100 since they came out and other than cleaning the image sensor I've never had an issue.

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May 18, 2017 18:34:58   #
John Geyer
 
Been using Nikon since 1966...almost daily had almost every body since FTN ....using D800, D810, D200 and still have a D70 on a copystand. Still using 20 mm f3.5, from 1967, on latest equipment. Never had a lens mount issue even using 600 mm. Cant imagine trying any other brand with more ruggedness.

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May 18, 2017 19:03:58   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
Will a Canon, Sony, Pentax, etc. keep you from another mishap?????

Don

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May 18, 2017 21:09:29   #
Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.
 
ndncowboy wrote:
I hate reading things like this. I just got a D7100 and have wondered how robust it might be. I wanted to take it with me on my motorcycle where I sometimes see great photo opportunities. Used to do it all the time with a Minolta. Beginning to sound like my stupid camera phone is safer and just pamper this expensive thing. That kinda ruins the whole reason to get a good camera. Didn't realize these things are so fragile. Damn!!! :(


Don't be put off by one incident. My 7100 took a 4 foot drop off of what was essentially a modified pickup truck in St. Thomas and the 18-55 that was on it exploded but the camera is just fine and has made several trips to Europe without so much as a look by a repair shop.

Don't worry about it, I feel bad for the OP but these cameras are not fragile.

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May 18, 2017 21:35:36   #
Madman Loc: Gulf Coast, Florida USA
 
Just Fred wrote:
About three years ago I decided to jump head first into the digital photography pool and purchased a Nikon D7100 and full complement of lenses, filters, flash, tripod, monopod, etc. It was light years better than the compact Nikon 1 J1 I had been using, which in itself was light years ahead of the Fuji FX45 pocket camera I had used before.

But, as some of you know, I suffered several unexplainable "breaks" that necessitated trips to Nikon and resulted in costly (~$500) repairs -- both times to the lens mount. I profess to be very careful with my camera equipment (and to other things I value: cars, guns, guitars, etc.), so these "breaks" concern me.

They concern so much, in fact, that I have become very reluctant to take my D7100 out of its carry case. I even went so far as to purchase a Coolpix P900, which I took on my recent cruise. If I have a gun I rely upon to carry every day and I lose faith in its ability to work reliably, every time, I might as well not carry it, right? I have the same feeling about my D7100.

So what do I do? I have a lot invested in said camera equipment. I suppose I could sell the body and replace it with some other Nikon (DX, I guess), or dump the whole lot and look at Canon, Sony, etc.

I've never been good on private sales. I'd probably take a big hit if I sold it to a shop, but I don't know anyone who I could approach to handle a sale for me.

This is my conundrum: Sell the D7100 and move on, or keep it and try to get over my angst about it (and if it goes "kablooey" one more time...)?
About three years ago I decided to jump head first... (show quote)


I find your problem puzzling. It seems from your description of the problem that the lens mount on the D7100 has broken or failed twice. You don't specify which lens or lenses were mounted to the camera when these failures occurred. Others, myself included, mount heavy lenses routinely without problems. Maybe I misinterpret your statement - maybe its the mounting flange on the lens that is breaking. Some lenses have plastic mounts and a sharp blow can break them. But these lenses don't cost $500 to purchase and certainly not to repair/replace. If you are mounting something heavy like my 150-600 and attaching it to a tripod via the socket on the camera body, then you must accept responsibility for the damage as that is not correct usage. BTW, when my camera suffered water damage from a sudden rain storm, the repair by Nikon was only $337.

Just went back and read your previous postings which described the problem with the lens release. If you press that button without a lens on the camera, can you see the locking pin withdraw into the metal flange? It should go all the way in, flush with the flange and should extend smoothly when you release the button. If both of these things don't happen, I would contact Nikon support and ask if any type of lubricant is recommended. If the pin is bent, that indicates some damage has occurred.

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