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May 11, 2017 12:54:47   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
Sorry to see that you are disappointed with the performance. But, the comments posted in reply explain why it is better to save the money you would spend on an extender and eventually get the prime or zoom lens that gives you the reach you want. I have formed this opinion after reading poster's comments for the past 3 years.

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May 11, 2017 16:19:19   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
cthahn wrote:
You will find very few experienced photographers that use a converter, especially a x2.0. You have not indicated if you used a 1.4 or 2.0 or what lens you used it with. You can not get something for nothing.


On the contrary, many experienced photographers use a 1.4X TC regularly, including me. As a sports action guy, I like the 400/2.8 because the 500 and 600 do not come as a 2.8. When I want the reach, and can afford it light wise, I use the 1.4X TC. For night games I use just the lens. I get the best of both worlds by buying only one expensive lens. If I was working for one of the big guys, who would pay for my lenses for me I'd have all three, and probably the neww 800 as well! Very rarely do I use the 2X, but I do use it on occasion. Best of luck

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May 12, 2017 01:19:26   #
MikieLBS Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
jkm757 wrote:
I recently picked up a used Nikon TC-20E lll teleconverter in like new condition to use with my 70-200 f2.8 lens. According to Nikon this converter is fully compatible with the 70-200 lens. Such was not the case. Without the converter the lens autofocus is fast and accurate. With the converter the autofocus is slow as molasses, hunts all over the place and cannot get a focus lock. I tried using it with both a full frame and a cropped sensor camera and with a few other f2.8 lenses I have, all with the same result. Needless to say(but I'm saying it anyway) I'm very disappointed.
I recently picked up a used Nikon TC-20E lll telec... (show quote)


This is the compatibility chart. Read it carefully. It is not good news. I believe I also read you were using a d7000. It is not F8 compatible. See the note on bottom of page about compatible cameras.

http://cdn-5.nikon-cdn.com/Assets/Common-Assets/Images/Teleconverter-Compatibility/EN_Comp_chart.html

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May 12, 2017 01:35:04   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
MikieLBS wrote:
This is the compatibility chart. Read it carefully. It is not good news. I believe I also read you were using a d7000. It is not F8 compatible. See the note on bottom of page about compatible cameras.

http://cdn-5.nikon-cdn.com/Assets/Common-Assets/Images/Teleconverter-Compatibility/EN_Comp_chart.html


The D7000 is f5.6 compatible, and that's all it needs to use an f2.8 lens with a TC-20E III. I just looked at the chart you linked to. Funny but this chart, on the TC-20E III doesn't say the same thing.
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/teleconverters/af-s_tc-20e_3/

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May 12, 2017 01:41:02   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
MikieLBS wrote:
... I believe I also read you were using a d7000. It is not F8 compatible. See the note on bottom of page about compatible cameras.

Not significant for the OP, who is using a 70-200mm f/2.8G VRII lens. Coupled with a 2X TC the maximum aperture is f/5.6. Every DSLR Nikon has ever made will auto focus with that combination.

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May 12, 2017 03:23:17   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Apaflo wrote:
Not significant for the OP, who is using a 70-200mm f/2.8G VRII lens. Coupled with a 2X TC the maximum aperture is f/5.6. Every DSLR Nikon has ever made will auto focus with that combination.


Except response will be affected.

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May 12, 2017 03:47:11   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
cjc2 wrote:
Except response will be affected.

Of course, and that is not being incorrectly denied. There are many characteristics, such as sharpness, chroma fringing, spherical aberrations and so on that will degrade when using a TC, but claiming the camera body needs to be AF functional at f/8 is false. My point was lets keep the information accurate.

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May 12, 2017 03:53:14   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Apaflo wrote:
Of course, and that is not being incorrectly denied. There are many characteristics, such as sharpness, chroma fringing, spherical aberrations and so on that will degrade when using a TC, but claiming the camera body needs to be AF functional at f/8 is false. My point was lets keep the information accurate.


Which IS significant! It's also something often forgotten.

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May 12, 2017 03:55:39   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
cjc2 wrote:
Which IS significant!

Not posting inaccurate information is the most significant. Posting every little detail that is true is not.

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May 12, 2017 04:08:36   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Apaflo wrote:
Not posting inaccurate information is the most significant. Posting every little detail that is true is not.


Loss of focus speed is indeed not a 'little detail' and was part of the op.

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May 12, 2017 04:13:12   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
cjc2 wrote:
Loss of focus speed is indeed not a 'little detail' and was part of the op.

But you followed up to my post, not the OP. Insignificant in the context posted...

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May 12, 2017 04:48:47   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jkm757 wrote:
I recently picked up a used Nikon TC-20E lll teleconverter in like new condition to use with my 70-200 f2.8 lens. According to Nikon this converter is fully compatible with the 70-200 lens. Such was not the case. Without the converter the lens autofocus is fast and accurate. With the converter the autofocus is slow as molasses, hunts all over the place and cannot get a focus lock. I tried using it with both a full frame and a cropped sensor camera and with a few other f2.8 lenses I have, all with the same result. Needless to say(but I'm saying it anyway) I'm very disappointed.
I recently picked up a used Nikon TC-20E lll telec... (show quote)


Here is a pretty comprehensive review, including test results, sample shots, and lens comparisons - and a few words about using it with the 1.4x, 1.7x and 2.0x TCs. This guy does great reviews, and actually provides sample images to support his presentation of the facts and impressions

https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8g-vr-ii/

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May 12, 2017 10:57:42   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Apaflo wrote:
But you followed up to my post, not the OP. Insignificant in the context posted...


Yes I did follow up on your post, but I also considered the OP. Normally, your answers are very complete pontifications on the subject at hand, and, for one who is not knowledgeable on the particular subject, can be very useful. I believe that loss of autofocus speed, on any lens with any TC, is important and can be very important subject dependent. I was not criticizing you, I was just adding something that I consider important, considering that I shoot mostly action sports. Personally, I only use a TC on my 400/2.8, and the ones I own are specifically suited to that lens. I do also own a Sigma Sport 150-600, which I bought for personal use, but I would never consider using a TC on that as focus speed is slow enough at 5.6 to begin with. While someday I might want to play with a TC on the Sigma as I suspect my D5 might work with it in bright light, I would also expect the autofocus the be terribly slow if it worked at all. Bottom line, focus speed is a consideration when using any TC on any lens, and that was, and is my point. It represents my opinion and that's all! Best of luck.

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May 12, 2017 11:24:05   #
genesampson
 
Thanks for posting the Nikon listing. I have a TC1.4 III and the 80-400 so am glad to see it is compatible with the D7200 I just ordered. Wasn't able to find the table for a while.

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May 12, 2017 11:56:12   #
MikieLBS Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
mcveed wrote:
The D7000 is f5.6 compatible, and that's all it needs to use an f2.8 lens with a TC-20E III. I just looked at the chart you linked to. Funny but this chart, on the TC-20E III doesn't say the same thing.
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/teleconverters/af-s_tc-20e_3/


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