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Apr 20, 2017 06:30:31   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
CO wrote:
It was a few years ago. Maybe they've improved that.


Ah! therein lies the answer. EVFs from "a few years ago" cannot be compared with today's EVFs. Tech moves (and improves) so fast - frightening!

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Apr 20, 2017 06:51:45   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Delderby wrote:
Ah! therein lies the answer. EVFs from "a few years ago" cannot be compared with today's EVFs. Tech moves (and improves) so fast - frightening!


Correct...as suspected.

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Apr 20, 2017 07:48:53   #
BJW
 
I use a Nikon D500 for sports. I use a mirrorless for travel and non-action. While I love the mirrorless because its light weight and compact, I'm not yet convinced that it performs as well for fast moving low light photography. We'll see if the upcoming Sony A9 changes that.
And if lightweight and compact is critical, I'm having a ton of fun with my iPhone 7+ Learning about all the wondeful things you can do with it. Truly remarkable.

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Apr 20, 2017 07:55:21   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JohnnyMac wrote:
I have a Canon Rebel -- 5/6 years old -- with 18-50, 70-300 and 18-200 lenses. Am considering upgrading the body but wondering
if I should consider mirrorless and if so, will my present lenses work with mirrorless.


I'm so glad I'm not starting out in photography. In the 1970s, all you had to do was decide on the brand of SLR you wanted. Now there are more brands, more models, and more types of cameras. My only help is a list of comparison sites for when you narrow down you choices.

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/top-10-best-pocket-zoom---travel-zoom-cameras-2016-19720
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/2016-roundup-consumer-long-zoom-compacts
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/2016-roundup-compact-enthusiast-zoom-cameras
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/top-10-best-pocket-zoom-digital-cameras-2015-19720
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/0692551582/2015-roundup-advanced-zoom-compacts/01

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Apr 20, 2017 08:27:20   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
CO wrote:
You'll have an electronic viewfinder. Maybe rent first to see if that's what you want. I like DSLR cameras because you're seeing the scene exactly the way it is.


EVF shows the image as the camera will record it. A big advantage IMHO.

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Apr 20, 2017 08:37:13   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm so glad I'm not starting out in photography. In the 1970s, all you had to do was decide on the brand of SLR you wanted. Now there are more brands, more models, and more types of cameras. My only help is a list of comparison sites for when you narrow down you choices.

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/top-10-best-pocket-zoom---travel-zoom-cameras-2016-19720
https://www dpreview.com/reviews/2016-roundup-consumer-long-zoom-compacts
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/2016-roundup-compact-enthusiast-zoom-cameras
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/top-10-best-pocket-zoom-digital-cameras-2015-19720
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/0692551582/2015-roundup-advanced-zoom-compacts/01
I'm so glad I'm not starting out in photography. ... (show quote)


You said it mate...... choices, choices.

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Apr 20, 2017 08:50:30   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JohnnyMac wrote:
I have a Canon Rebel -- 5/6 years old -- with 18-50, 70-300 and 18-200 lenses. Am considering upgrading the body but wondering
if I should consider mirrorless and if so, will my present lenses work with mirrorless.


Canon EF lenses adapt the best to Micro 4/3 and Sony 6xxx series.

Yes, you should consider mirrorless. IMHO, Canon should be your next to last choice. Nikon should be your last. The top four brands in mirrorless are all great, and so different that only you could determine which best meets your needs.

Look at Fujifilm, Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony mirrorless options. Read reviews at http://www.dpreview.com and on YouTube.

One of my favorites ($1000 with kit lens) is the Panasonic LUMIX G85, which is quite well-rounded. The Fujifilm XT-2, Sony a6500, and Olympus OM-D EM-5 Mark II are all worth a look.

One bit of advice: Don't adapt dSLR lenses over the long run. Sell them and buy native lenses.

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Apr 20, 2017 09:19:46   #
BJW
 
I am heartened to read that burkphoto, whose well balanced and well informed views I have come to respect, speaks well of the Panasonic Lumix G85. I read elsewhere that it is one of the most under-rated micro 4/3rds.

I was looking for a good travel camera and bought one about 2 months ago. I must say it is one of the finest cameras I've used --filling all of my expectations, including ease of use to image quality. I added a 25mm 1.7 prime and a 14-140 3.5 and I'm ready for my next overseas trip in May, having reduced the size and weight of my gear from a heavy carry on bag to a light shoulder bag. Big plus, for sure.
BJ

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Apr 20, 2017 10:13:17   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
JohnnyMac wrote:
I have a Canon Rebel -- 5/6 years old -- with 18-50, 70-300 and 18-200 lenses. Am considering upgrading the body but wondering
if I should consider mirrorless and if so, will my present lenses work with mirrorless.


If you buy the Canon M5 or any M series mirrorless, you can purchase an adapter so that all of Canon EF and EF-s lenses will work. A friend of mine has one and I sold one of my lenses to him and it works great.

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Apr 20, 2017 11:17:07   #
LensWork
 
CO wrote:
I just wonder why pro photographers have not adopted mirrorless cameras. Sony has been producing mirrorless for some time. At sporting events and the Olympics DSLR cameras are used. You probably won't find one mirrorless camera. I used a Sony mirrorless camera and lag in the electronic viewfinder bothered me. Someone walking quickly through the scene would be somewhat smeared.


Professional photographers are (slowly) adopting Mirrorless cameras. See the work of Nat Geo and Pulitzer Prize winning photographer Jay Dickman and two-time Pulitzer winner Larry C. Price (among others). Both shoot with the new Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II.
I switched to Olympus in 2014 after shooting with Nikon for 37 years. I don't miss the bulk and weight of my Nikon system at all. After a little time adjusting to the EVF, the WYSIWYG of an EVF is a great advantage.

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Apr 20, 2017 11:43:06   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
CO wrote:
I just wonder why pro photographers have not adopted mirrorless cameras. Sony has been producing mirrorless for some time. At sporting events and the Olympics DSLR cameras are used. You probably won't find one mirrorless camera. I used a Sony mirrorless camera and lag in the electronic viewfinder bothered me. Someone walking quickly through the scene would be somewhat smeared.

Looks to me you're just about answered your own queston!!!

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Apr 20, 2017 11:44:25   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
markjay wrote:
Because professionals feel they must be seen with large, heavy, impressive looking cameras in order to justify their high fee's.
You can take just as good a picture with a mirrorless.

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Apr 20, 2017 11:55:09   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
speters wrote:
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Well questioned - few pros get "high fees" - most get a living wage. I've seen a few battle-scarred pro cameras - and they don't look impressive - but what comes out of them often is.

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Apr 20, 2017 13:27:58   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
markjay wrote:
Because professionals feel they must be seen with large, heavy, impressive looking cameras in order to justify their high fee's.
You can take just as good a picture with a mirrorless.


Yes, amen! Peer pressure must be intense.

What will they think? ....

"Ewwww..your using a mirrorless??!! Micro four thirds ewwww! Not full frame ewwww! Your sensor is too small - no OVF! Your camera is too small!"

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Apr 20, 2017 13:58:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BJW wrote:
I am heartened to read that burkphoto, whose well balanced and well informed views I have come to respect, speaks well of the Panasonic Lumix G85. I read elsewhere that it is one of the most under-rated micro 4/3rds.

I was looking for a good travel camera and bought one about 2 months ago. I must say it is one of the finest cameras I've used --filling all of my expectations, including ease of use to image quality. I added a 25mm 1.7 prime and a 14-140 3.5 and I'm ready for my next overseas trip in May, having reduced the size and weight of my gear from a heavy carry on bag to a light shoulder bag. Big plus, for sure.
BJ
I am heartened to read that burkphoto, whose well ... (show quote)


Thanks. That is a sweet setup.

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