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Mar 29, 2017 06:34:50   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
katastrofa wrote:
Because we don't like our luggage stolen? :)


Yeah, I was just reading about how most of the thieves in the world were in the US. I believe that the vast majority are actually in public office or legal professions. Often the two are hand in hand.

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Mar 29, 2017 06:35:05   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
katastrofa wrote:
TSA has been known to steal people's cash. Of course they will recommend that travellers use poor locks, to make stealing easier.

My attitude is, I simply won't travel to the US for leisure until it begins to treat its visitors better.


Yeah, I see your point. Theft, as well as incompetent/rude security and customs officials are unknown throughout the rest of the world. As the old saying goes,"Don't let the door......."

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Mar 29, 2017 06:36:12   #
katastrofa Loc: London, UK
 
I don't have to stand in line for a few hours to get a visa to Canada or Australia. I would have stand in line for a few hours if I wanted to get a visa to the US.

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Mar 29, 2017 06:38:14   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
katastrofa wrote:
I don't have to stand in line for a few hours to get a visa to Canada or Australia. I would have stand in line for a few hours if I wanted to get a visa to the US.

Nothing worth stealing or disrupting in those places.

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Mar 29, 2017 06:49:57   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
bullethole wrote:
I am in it security and would caution anyone about TSA locks. The locks use a 3 or 4 number to lock (without the TSA key). These are similar to many compxuter locks (the ones that cable lock the computer to the desktop). We regularly played with these and I had a co!league who could sit with one and consistently unlock them o. Less than 10 min. (My best was 20 Min) with 4 digits. The TSA lock I am looking at has 3 digits. Now my colleague had lots of time to work his technique and he could break them during a meeting without anyone ware that he was fiddling with a lock. No he had no magic secret, he just had an approach to trying the combinations until it broke. Much like kids can text without looking at the keyboard on their phones. I spoke with him recently on this very subject and he told me ha has not had as TSA approved lock that he couild not open in 5 minutes. They are far from secure, despite what the kubki theater TSA wants you to believe. Note, I regularly have to carry 10ka worth of forensic computer equipment on plants that has to go in checked baggage (very large pelican cases), I have been very lucky that none of this has been stolen (most likely because the baggage handlers have no idea what the stuff is worth (can they recognize a scsi write blocker... Probvsbly not)), but I worry about it on every flight. When I can, I carry my camera equipment in my carry-on baggage, fortunately for other reasons I don't travel to any destination that may be covered by the latest govt restrictions. If I did, it would be for business, so I would just include my travel photo rif in the case with my other equipment. Always research restrictions on where you are travelling to and from and plan accordingly. Not trying to start any wars here, just stating my experience. The TSA locks are IMHO junk, and keep the honest people honest.. If yoiyoiu trust the locks, then caveat emptor
I am in it security and would caution anyone about... (show quote)


Would a lock cutter be quicker?
Or just take the bag/case and "lose" it?

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Mar 29, 2017 06:50:54   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
katastrofa wrote:
I don't have to stand in line for a few hours to get a visa to Canada or Australia. I would have stand in line for a few hours if I wanted to get a visa to the US.


Ever hear of the underwear bomber of Canada? Nah, didn't think so.

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Mar 29, 2017 06:51:52   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
It does not take much of an inspection to realize that these are not the greatest locks and that a 3-digit combination is not that hard to work until you get the right number. BUT - a baggage handler is not likely to have 5 minutes to sit and play with the lock, so these locks do provide security against someone quickly opening up your luggage and grabbing something valuable.

Can you REQUEST a manual inspection and then place a more secure non-TSA lock on your luggage?

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Mar 29, 2017 06:53:56   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
SteveR wrote:
Ever hear of the underwear bomber of Canada? Nah, didn't think so.


I heard he was going commando,or maybe he was a commando, Hmmm,not sure.

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Mar 29, 2017 06:57:59   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
sb wrote:
It does not take much of an inspection to realize that these are not the greatest locks and that a 3-digit combination is not that hard to work until you get the right number. BUT - a baggage handler is not likely to have 5 minutes to sit and play with the lock, so these locks do provide security against someone quickly opening up your luggage and grabbing something valuable.

Can you REQUEST a manual inspection and then place a more secure non-TSA lock on your luggage?


That would speed things up!

It appears that some think that TSA and baggage handlers are synonymous.

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Mar 29, 2017 07:09:00   #
caddylvr
 
You are right, TSA and Baggage handlers are NOT synonymous. The baggage handlers work for the individual airlines and are not paid well for the work they do, so therefore feel they have more reason to steal.

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Mar 29, 2017 07:20:41   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
katastrofa wrote:
I know - you're banning everyone now :)


Again, wrong information from you. Our government is not banning everyone. Get your facts straight. You are just embarrassing yourself.

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Mar 29, 2017 07:30:39   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
katastrofa wrote:
TSA has been known to steal people's cash. Of course they will recommend that travellers use poor locks, to make stealing easier.

My attitude is, I simply won't travel to the US for leisure until it begins to treat its visitors better.


You are kidding, Right? You are saying TSA, the organization itself, recommends cheap locks so it's agents can steal from passengers. Hmmmm. Interesting bit of no common sense there. Wherever you are from please stay there. Apparently nobody has ever committed a theft at your airports because your version of TSA is perfect.

Dennis

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Mar 29, 2017 07:31:30   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DaveO wrote:
Good! We don't need any more negative people!


Thank you Dave. Good common sense.

Dennis

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Mar 29, 2017 07:44:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bullethole wrote:
I am in it security and would caution anyone about TSA locks. The locks use a 3 or 4 number to lock (without the TSA key). These are similar to many compxuter locks (the ones that cable lock the computer to the desktop). We regularly played with these and I had a co!league who could sit with one and consistently unlock them o. Less than 10 min. (My best was 20 Min) with 4 digits. The TSA lock I am looking at has 3 digits. Now my colleague had lots of time to work his technique and he could break them during a meeting without anyone ware that he was fiddling with a lock. No he had no magic secret, he just had an approach to trying the combinations until it broke. Much like kids can text without looking at the keyboard on their phones. I spoke with him recently on this very subject and he told me ha has not had as TSA approved lock that he couild not open in 5 minutes. They are far from secure, despite what the kubki theater TSA wants you to believe. Note, I regularly have to carry 10ka worth of forensic computer equipment on plants that has to go in checked baggage (very large pelican cases), I have been very lucky that none of this has been stolen (most likely because the baggage handlers have no idea what the stuff is worth (can they recognize a scsi write blocker... Probvsbly not)), but I worry about it on every flight. When I can, I carry my camera equipment in my carry-on baggage, fortunately for other reasons I don't travel to any destination that may be covered by the latest govt restrictions. If I did, it would be for business, so I would just include my travel photo rif in the case with my other equipment. Always research restrictions on where you are travelling to and from and plan accordingly. Not trying to start any wars here, just stating my experience. The TSA locks are IMHO junk, and keep the honest people honest.. If yoiyoiu trust the locks, then caveat emptor
I am in it security and would caution anyone about... (show quote)


The first time I flew after TSA locks became a thing, I had to remove them when I checked my luggage.

Now I wouldn't check anything.

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Mar 29, 2017 08:04:50   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The first time I flew after TSA locks became a thing, I had to remove them when I checked my luggage.

Now I wouldn't check anything.


I try not to check anything either. If I must check something there will be nothing of value in the bag.

Dennis

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