jessie2004

I am new here and certainly not as experienced as any here. I have also been thinking of upgrading. I have been looking at the new 77D from Canon due to come out end of March. I don't need a FF camera and also have a few lenses I want to be able to use with whatever upgrade I go with. I have done some comparison with other canon models in the same arena and it seems to be a good buy. Any thoughts I would appreciate them before spending that much money.
Thanks!

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Glad to see you were able to start a separate thread. You will get far more useful responses now.

There will be some who have their own agenda and will try to steer you to a different camera system like Nikon or Sony or Pentax. Nothing wrong with that since everyone has their own preferences. However, be wary of fanboys that try to convince you that what you are considering is junk and should only buy the brand they favor.


What camera and lenses do you have now?

The new 77D appears to be a Canon Rebel sized body with the asperations of the Canon 80D. Its features and specifications seem to be similar in many respects to the larger 80D, and has several higher end features than previous Rebels. It has a control dial around the button cluster in the rear, which would be a first on a Rebel sized Canon body and a major handling upgrade to previous Rebels.

The 77D does include a new and faster Digic 7 image processor. The 80D uses the Digic 6 processor. Other than that, I'm not sure how the 77D compares feature to feature with the 80D, but it doesn't appear to have any significant features that 80D doesn't. It is much smaller and will feel different in your hand than an 80D. Which one is a better choice for you may depend on the street price and how comfortable each is in your hand.

Depending on the lenses you currently have you may want to consider a lens or two to get the most from the more advanced capabilities of this new body. Hope this helps.

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

Canon chose to call the new T6S Rebel the 77D rather than a T7S Rebel. Make no mistake, it's still a Rebel no matter what number is on it as it has no feature to class it a Canon "D" model.
The naming is all marketing.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Actually, not entirely accurate. Unlike any other Rebel before it, the new 77D has a rear controller dial around the button cluster for significantly improved handling, similar to xxD models. And while it's still a Rebel for all intents and purposes, it does use the latest DIGIC 7 processor and has a 24 mp sensor with 45 focus points as well as a number of other features similar to the 80D.

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

The D bodies are all magnesium, or magnesium main frame bodies that all use the high capacity LP-E6 or larger batteries, and they all have at least a minimal level of weather sealing.
The 77D, like the T6S Rebel it replaces, is all plastic, no weather sealing, and uses the smaller Rebel LP-E17 type battery. Only 1/4000s max shutter speed rather than the D's 1/8000. No AF or Drive selection on the top window. The T6s also has the rear control dial. Clearly a Rebel.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

I wasn't comparing it to the xD bodies but to the xxD. In your post you just indicated D bodies without any reference to specific ones. They are all D bodies. I assume now you meant xD. A comparison of this lower end body to the pro and semi pro bodies is plain silly to start with. This new body is more advanced then the 70D was and seems to be in the ballpark with the 80D. In some respects it may even be more advanced than the over two year old 7D Mark II. Comparing it to, and criticizing it, because it doesn't have the a mag alloy body or the professional features of high end cameras makes no sense. That's like saying a Subaru is a poor car because it does have the advanced features of a Tesla.

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

I WAS comparing it to the 70D and 80D bodies. Check their build and specs. The ONLY thing the 77D/T7s offers over the 80D is the latest processor and a few more focus points. It falls woefully short in EVERY other comparison, as I have already detailed above.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Well, you highlighted the mag alloy body as an important feature, which the 80D does not have either. The 77D has a rear controller wheel. A first for any Rebel. And with regard to the 1/4000 maximum shutter speed remember the shutter speed of the 6D is only 1/4000. No one is suggesting or implying that this new body is the equal of the 80D. But it is a significant improvement over previous Rebels, and close to the features of the 80D in a number of respects. That is how it should be viewed. Whether it's a cost effective choice compared to the 80D is a different question. And of course the different form factor needs to be considered.

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

See my comment, the 80D has a "magnesium main frame" as I stated. (So does the 6D by the way) The REBEL T6S has the same rear control wheel as on the 77D. So now you want to bring. Full frame camera into the mix? Yes, the 77D has more focus points than the 6D, and the same max shutter speed, it's also 5 years OLDER technology that is WAY behind most anything in the Canon line now and the next camera in line for an upgrade this summer. But any way you spin it the 77D is a mis-labeled Rebel. Either that or Canon had begun downgrading the entire XXD camera line.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

As usual, you know more than what Canon thinks or intends.
I read on the Canon site months ago before any specs where out that they were positioning the 77D into that line-up as an introductory model bridging the Ti line with the xxD line in a similar way that the 6d bridges into the more semi-pro 5 series on up.
This was being done by putting the controls such as the on/off switch, control wheels, focus-on switch in familiar locations.
It's important in the Canon line-up when transitioning from less advanced cameras to the semi and pro lines and making a fairly seamless transition by familiarity.
I don't know the specs of the 77 nor do I care.
But if what I read(at Canon) came to be, then I can understand the positioning of the nomenclature.
You're welcome to get on your soapbox and keep ranting on about how right you are, we would expect nothing less from you.
I tend to believe CANON more than your biased opinions!
SS

I will add that if Jessie wants to move into a 77 that it would be a good choice as he will be able to move up at a later date and already be familiar with the control layout of the more advance cameras. :-)

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

Yet you persist in spouting off with uninformed comments. Typical of your comments.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

I suggest you get on your hands and knees and hoof it back to the camera cave as quickly as possible, before an angry mob wearing red hats catches you talking about Canons!!! LoL
SS

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

That's all you got?

Pathetic as usual.

Good thing you keep hiding in your basement full of Canon promotional literature so you Don't have to experience the real world.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

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SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Jessie, welcome to the Hog!
Personally, I feel you've made a reasonable decision. As far as I know there are no actual reviews on the 77.
For the reasons I've already mentioned, it's probably a fine camera.
An important consideration is that it DOES have the newest processor, giving the camera the newest advantages over any other Canon model in its price range.
The disadvantage is of course that at introduction you won't find any discounts and it's possibly similar in price to the 80D. You should make some comparisons between those two before you decide.
Good luck and again welcome!
SS

PS, just ignore the big gorilla on the soapbox, he's always like that!