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Mar 27, 2017 17:35:32   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
Vince68 wrote:
HP controls whether or not you can use refilled cartridges also. Its hit and miss sometimes that a refilled cartridge will work or not. Depending on where you get refilled cartridges from, they may or may not work. I purchased some refilled cartridges from Staples. The black ones worked. One of the color cartridges did not work. I returned it to Staples and they gave me another one. The sales tech said that HP had put a code into their printer updates which gives users an error message saying the ink cartridge is not a compatible ink cartridge. I found this out a number of years ago when I was refilling my own cartridges (these were genuine HP when I bought them new) and they would no longer work after refilling them. I received an incompatible ink cartridge error message after I refilled them. At the time I did not know it was due to an HP update to the printer. Just another method for them to make profits by doing that and charging high prices for ink because they know you need ink to continue printing and you are going to buy it.
HP controls whether or not you can use refilled ca... (show quote)


That's the reason why they sell the printers so cheaply

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Mar 27, 2017 17:41:14   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
shelty wrote:
That's the reason why they sell the printers so cheaply


Exactly... why spend $100 on a black and a color cartridge when you can get a new inkjet printer for $49.99.

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Mar 27, 2017 18:18:54   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
Vince68 wrote:
Exactly... why spend $100 on a black and a color cartridge when you can get a new inkjet printer for $49.99.


There you go, and pretty soon you will have a garage full of printers. But seriously, I believe they put in ink cartridges that are only one quarter to one half full.

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Mar 27, 2017 18:27:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
shelty wrote:
They do upgrade the software periodically.


Upgrade?
I had one editor for over 5 years before I upgraded from v2 to v8,
another from v4 to v14.
I just do simple edits.

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Mar 27, 2017 21:40:53   #
whitewolfowner
 
Vince68 wrote:
HP controls whether or not you can use refilled cartridges also. Its hit and miss sometimes that a refilled cartridge will work or not. Depending on where you get refilled cartridges from, they may or may not work. I purchased some refilled cartridges from Staples. The black ones worked. One of the color cartridges did not work. I returned it to Staples and they gave me another one. The sales tech said that HP had put a code into their printer updates which gives users an error message saying the ink cartridge is not a compatible ink cartridge. I found this out a number of years ago when I was refilling my own cartridges (these were genuine HP when I bought them new) and they would no longer work after refilling them. I received an incompatible ink cartridge error message after I refilled them. At the time I did not know it was due to an HP update to the printer. Just another method for them to make profits by doing that and charging high prices for ink because they know you need ink to continue printing and you are going to buy it.
HP controls whether or not you can use refilled ca... (show quote)


Moral of the story; stay away from HP.

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Mar 27, 2017 21:42:39   #
whitewolfowner
 
A little secret about cheap printers; they soak you to death on the ink. Buy a better quality printer and the ink cartridges are so much better priced. Lexmar and HP are the worst out there that I am aware of.

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Mar 28, 2017 12:29:31   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
Longshadow wrote:
I can understand the software, but not mechanical items. I wonder what repairs would be needed that would involve working with the software, unless it is reading a status from a communications port.


Most ink cartridges now have computer chips to talk to the printer- ink level, blocked jet, etc.

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Mar 29, 2017 18:10:53   #
hopthecop Loc: salisbury md
 
jerryc41 wrote:
When you buy a Lexmark ink cartridge, you don't own it. Lexmark has a lawsuit aimed at forbidding other companies to refill their cartridges - since they don't own them.

http://gizmodo.com/supreme-court-printer-cartridge-case-could-be-the-citiz-1793643311


i thought i read somewhere that lexmark is gonna stop making printers......their printers are junk and the ink is very expensive.

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Apr 1, 2017 15:58:21   #
DJphoto Loc: SF Bay Area
 
jerryc41 wrote:
When you buy a Lexmark ink cartridge, you don't own it. Lexmark has a lawsuit aimed at forbidding other companies to refill their cartridges - since they don't own them.

http://gizmodo.com/supreme-court-printer-cartridge-case-could-be-the-citiz-1793643311


I just solved that problem. My 4 1/2 year old Canon printer died and I replaced it with a Canon G3200 mega-tank printer. The ink comes in bottles that you use to refill the printer ink tanks. Each bottle costs about the same as an ink cartridge, but holds about 10 times the ink, and costs about the same as a cartridge. They claim up to 6,000 pages from a black ink bottle and 7,000 color pages from the 3 color bottles. It's only a 4 tank printer, but I don't much photo printing, so that isn't an issue for me. The color for non-photo work looks very good. There are 4 different printers in the line, and the price varies depending on the features; the G3200 seemed like the "sweet spot" for my needs, and I'm really happy with it. The printer is now only available direct from Canon.

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