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Feb 22, 2017 10:22:28   #
Lance Pearson Loc: Viriginia
 
I actually am going to try the full frame sony A7 24 mp with an adapter for my good canon lenses for the eos M3. Similar size sensor but full frame instead of cmos cropped smaller sensor. I just ordered a like new one from Amazon today along with the adapter. I love the clarity and size of the m3 leaf shutter camera but have read good things about the Sony as well and my full frame Nikon is a world better than the cropped sensor D7000 that I still have and love so am going full frame all the way. I've read about the other brands but talked to some sony owners and it is more a known quantity to me..similar in many ways to the M3. Some day it isn't going to matter if they have leafe shutters or mirrors..and that day is not far off.

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Feb 22, 2017 12:24:52   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
Yes, there are other brands, and that one might indeed be close. They probably have a unique lens mount--would be better if it took


GoofyNewfie wrote:
Charles, be careful what you ask for.
It exists and it's only $500 or less on ebay.
You need a Fujica GSW 690, AKA the Texas Leica

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Feb 22, 2017 12:51:11   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
Yes, there are other brands, and that one might indeed be close. They probably have a unique lens mount--would be better if it took


The GL690 allows you to change lenses & there may be other models in the Fuji line that do.
I believe the widest available is a 50.
And, yes, it's a special Fuji lens mount.
Has to be with that rangefinder.
Fuji makes great lenses.
Large format, medium and for their digital line.

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Feb 23, 2017 05:42:15   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
I would like a Leica rangefinder that uses 120 film, 6x9, instead of 35mm. But I can't even afford a Leica 35mm, so...


I got sniped yesterday on a russian rangefinder the zorkii 4 They tend to be fairly inexpensive. other than the Leica Monochrome, there seems to be nobody that has chosen to make a straight forward basic digital camera with a fixed prime lens. it seems to be either a DSLR or m43 pretty much is as close as you can get to a photographers camera. All the rest seem designed to suck the heart and soul out of photography.

So it seems film is the answer to my particular itch.

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Feb 23, 2017 08:58:11   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
blackest wrote:
I love dslr's they have something about them that make you feel you could do great things with them. I find i rebel against most other types of modern camera, they have no real appeal just plastic boxes for the most part, they don't engage me, sure i am holding the camera trying to compose the shot and trying to get the autofocus to agree with me where the focal point should be, soulless devices.

I find myself looking at vintage film camera's and ok some of them are ugly monstrosities too, but some of them i find hard not to hit the buy button.
Crazy really i have 4 film SLR's already and film is kind of awkward to deal with although i have just found a fella who processes black and white, ok it's not free like digital but it's the price of a couple of beers or maybe 2 or 3 cappuccino's these days.

I'm thinking there is a place for these range finder type camera's in todays world, or at least a digital equivalent. Manual Focus no screen on the back a mechanical shutter and aperture, no bayer array just black & white. Ok maybe a few subtle modern enhancements a focus confirmation light in the view finder.
dials rather than buttons no built in flash but perhaps a hot shoe for off camera flash. A simple fast prime lens. A digital engine inside which adjusts to ensure good exposure but pretty much that. As the photographer you are selecting the aperture setting the focus compensating for the scene's tones. I wouldn't even go for dedicated batteries just a couple of AA Cells.

Teens love black&white photo's, they are drawn to them, i think it is something that would have appeal, what do you think?

Maybe you have a better idea for a camera you would like to own if only somebody made them.
I love dslr's they have something about them that ... (show quote)


Fuji XT 2 or XT Pro. Interesting in style and controls...

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Feb 23, 2017 11:02:09   #
alby Loc: very eastern pa.
 
had 2 NIKON FE cameras... loved them..... wish digital were as easy for me... just seem to much for this old guy with all the different settings... jmho

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Feb 23, 2017 13:00:30   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
blackest wrote:
Actually I just bought some hp5 yesterday and trying to decide which body to put it in i think the k1000 with a 55mm f1.7 will do the trick :)


Why yes it will :)

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Feb 23, 2017 13:45:16   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
rpavich wrote:
Why yes it will :)


Only problem so far is a reluctance to press the shutter button, digital you just try things and don't care so much if the shots don't work initially as you get up to speed they improve :) I've just come back from shooting a small awards ceremony the light was terrible only time it was ok for 3200 iso was between acts, I had to shoot very high to stand a chance of getting anything. I think they will all finish up black & white and at small sizes...

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Feb 23, 2017 14:09:55   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
blackest wrote:
Only problem so far is a reluctance to press the shutter button, digital you just try things and don't care so much if the shots don't work initially as you get up to speed they improve :) I've just come back from shooting a small awards ceremony the light was terrible only time it was ok for 3200 iso was between acts, I had to shoot very high to stand a chance of getting anything. I think they will all finish up black & white and at small sizes...


Well...that's the way it goes. I find it freeing, not worrying about it. I just rig for the worst case and shoot away. I much prefer being in the moment than worrying about how things are coming out. (but then again...I don't shoot for money either)

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Feb 23, 2017 14:52:23   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
blackest wrote:
I'm thinking there is a place for these range finder type camera's in todays world, or at least a digital equivalent....


There are various mirrorless models that come close to being "digital rangefinder" cameras. Canon's new M5 appeals to be because it can share lenses with my DSLRs, as well as be used with some interesting lenses itself, including a lot of vintage rangefinder lenses (any Leica M-bayonet or screwmount, for example). Fuji, Sony, and Olympus, in particular, are also making interesting mirrorless models. Heck, Fuji just recently announced a "medium format" mirrorless!

I wouldn't want a digital without a rear screen. Those can be handy for shooting at high or low angles and I really like to be able to check histogram, focus and composition after a shot.

I also wouldn't want a digital that shoots only B&W. Many digital can shoot in B&W mode, but I wouldn't even do that... it's easy to change an image to B&W later in post-processing... and a lot more controllable.

One thing that no digital offers that some rangefinder did was a more-than-100% viewfinder... Big spacious viewfinders that not only showed the image area (defined by engraved lines or a brightline rectangle), but also a little bit beyond that, which came in hand when shooting fast, being able to see a little more than the image area while keeping the camera to your eye.

Nothing wrong with film cameras....

Learn to process B&W film yourself. It's easy and doing so makes for low cost. Basic used darkroom gear can be bought dirt cheap.

Or shoot "chromogenic" B&W film that's processed C41, like as most color neg film and possibly can be developed quickly locally, if you still have any 1-hour labs in your area. Chromogenic B&W also scans better than silver halide emulsions, if you want to work with the images digitally.

Only 4 film cameras? I have several hundred!

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Feb 23, 2017 15:04:42   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
The camera I have in my signature is the most appealing camera to me on the market. That's why I bought it.

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Feb 23, 2017 15:25:59   #
asiafish Loc: Bakersfield, CA
 
repleo wrote:
Sounds like the Leica M Monochrome is just what you are looking for. Only $7.5K. Small price to live your dream

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1144610&gclid=CIf5kMnKo9ICFZeKswodq28IrQ&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876%2C92051678642%2C&Q=&A=details


I LOVE my M Monochrom (the original version). Best camera I've ever owned.

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Feb 23, 2017 15:31:09   #
asiafish Loc: Bakersfield, CA
 
blackest wrote:
I love dslr's they have something about them that make you feel you could do great things with them. I find i rebel against most other types of modern camera, they have no real appeal just plastic boxes for the most part, they don't engage me, sure i am holding the camera trying to compose the shot and trying to get the autofocus to agree with me where the focal point should be, soulless devices.

I find myself looking at vintage film camera's and ok some of them are ugly monstrosities too, but some of them i find hard not to hit the buy button.
Crazy really i have 4 film SLR's already and film is kind of awkward to deal with although i have just found a fella who processes black and white, ok it's not free like digital but it's the price of a couple of beers or maybe 2 or 3 cappuccino's these days.

I'm thinking there is a place for these range finder type camera's in todays world, or at least a digital equivalent. Manual Focus no screen on the back a mechanical shutter and aperture, no bayer array just black & white. Ok maybe a few subtle modern enhancements a focus confirmation light in the view finder.
dials rather than buttons no built in flash but perhaps a hot shoe for off camera flash. A simple fast prime lens. A digital engine inside which adjusts to ensure good exposure but pretty much that. As the photographer you are selecting the aperture setting the focus compensating for the scene's tones. I wouldn't even go for dedicated batteries just a couple of AA Cells.

Teens love black&white photo's, they are drawn to them, i think it is something that would have appeal, what do you think?

Maybe you have a better idea for a camera you would like to own if only somebody made them.
I love dslr's they have something about them that ... (show quote)


The best camera for me is a rangefinder. I love manually focusing and setting my own exposure. I like looking through a window finder rather than through the lens, so that everything is in focus and I can see outside the frame line. I love fast prime lenses and shooting in available darkness.

Currently I own three of them, two digital and one film. For digital, I use the Leica M-D for color (the one without an LCD on the back) and the original version Leica M Monochrom for black and white. For film I have a mint-condition Leica M5. While I have seven lenses for it, four of them are 50mm lenses, two 35mm and one 90mm, with the fastest 35mm and 50mm being used collectively for about 95% of my photography.

If I had to limit myself to one camera and one lens for the rest of my days, it wouldn't be much of a sacrifice. The M5, a fast 50mm and Bob's your uncle.

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Feb 23, 2017 15:56:49   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
blackest wrote:
I love dslr's they have something about them that make you feel you could do great things with them. I find i rebel against most other types of modern camera, they have no real appeal just plastic boxes for the most part, they don't engage me, sure i am holding the camera trying to compose the shot and trying to get the autofocus to agree with me where the focal point should be, soulless devices.

I find myself looking at vintage film camera's and ok some of them are ugly monstrosities too, but some of them i find hard not to hit the buy button.
Crazy really i have 4 film SLR's already and film is kind of awkward to deal with although i have just found a fella who processes black and white, ok it's not free like digital but it's the price of a couple of beers or maybe 2 or 3 cappuccino's these days.

I'm thinking there is a place for these range finder type camera's in todays world, or at least a digital equivalent. Manual Focus no screen on the back a mechanical shutter and aperture, no bayer array just black & white. Ok maybe a few subtle modern enhancements a focus confirmation light in the view finder.
dials rather than buttons no built in flash but perhaps a hot shoe for off camera flash. A simple fast prime lens. A digital engine inside which adjusts to ensure good exposure but pretty much that. As the photographer you are selecting the aperture setting the focus compensating for the scene's tones. I wouldn't even go for dedicated batteries just a couple of AA Cells.

Teens love black&white photo's, they are drawn to them, i think it is something that would have appeal, what do you think?

Maybe you have a better idea for a camera you would like to own if only somebody made them.
I love dslr's they have something about them that ... (show quote)

I started out with a Brownie 620 camera. It was the "best" camera I owned (at the time). I've had a smattering almost every camera since then. The Pentax Spotmatic was my "best" camera for photojournalism (at the time). Several Canon FD & EF cameras have been my "best" camera (at the time).

At present my "best" cameras are a Sony A7R II and, most recently, the great Sony RX10 III... They provide me with far more technology and image quality than I can imagine (or ever really put to good use).

I'm sure, if I live long enough, there will be other "best" cameras in my future . Looking forward to the next advances in photography!

bwa

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Feb 23, 2017 15:58:44   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
This one has a bit of appeal: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/8641626030/price-released-for-brikk-s-24k-gold-nikon-df

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