chapin in utah wrote:
Hi folks.
Its been a while since I posted here.
But I need expert opinions about what lens should I rent or possibly buy.
I shoot with a nikon D7000, and usually I am carring a 18-200 vrll lens with me.
But soon i will be traveling to escalante petrified state park, kanarraville canyon hiking, and zions nat park, including angels landing hike there.
So. Lots of great landscapes, and since my nikon is crop sensor I am already loosing something of my 18-200 lens. (Like 24-300) Not to mention is a little on the heavy side.
I have been thinking of renting a tokina 11-16 but I have no previous experience with ultra wide lens, and I dont want fish eye effect if its possible.
What you guys recommend for my nikon 7000?
Hi folks. br Its been a while since I posted here.... (
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The Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 is a very sharp, quality lens... but it's also an older version that's been superseded by the Tokina 11-20mm f2.8. Don't know too much about the new lens, except that it's larger and heavier.
The 11-16mm came in two types for Nikon: the original and a version II. It won't matter with a D7000, but the II has a built in motor to be able to autofocus on all Nikon bodies, while the original and slightly cheaper version doesn't, so would be manual focus only on D5000 or D3000 cameras.
The 11-16mm has very limited range of focal lengths. That's a by-product of it being one of the fastest (f2.8) ultrawide available. There's a bit more range, but added size and weight with the newest lens.
The 11-16mm also is very prone to flare. I know folks who tried it but couldn't use it for that reason, even though they liked other aspects of the lens. (I don't know if the 11-20mm does better... maybe someone else can say or there are online reviews that discuss it.)
Do you really need f2.8 with an ultrawide? For example, are you planning to do night shots where the brighter viewfinder offered by f2.8 might be helpful?
Personally I chose the Tokina 12-24mm f4 instead (which has now been superseded with a 12-28mm f4). It has similar build, much better range of focal lengths, and is well corrected with milder wide angle distortions. It's slightly less sharp than the 11-16mm, but far more flare resistant. It also has a little chromatic aberration, though that's fairly easily corrected in post-processing software. And f4 is plenty fast for an ultrawide (which I'm normally stopping down for increased depth of field, anyway.)
speters wrote:
The Tokina 10-20/f2.0 is suppose to be a real good pc of glass!
Except for the minor detail that it doesn't exist. Maybe you're thinking of the Tokina 11-20mm f2.8. If I were shopping today, I'd look at that lens and try to get one to test.
But I still don't buy into the obsession with ultrafast ultrawide (f2.8.... or f2.0 if it existed). Just not necessary for most purposes with wide angle lenses and it usually makes for other compromises (more flare, less range of focal lengths, and/or larger/heavier lens). The f4 Tokina 12-24mm has been fine for me. So has a Canon 10-22mm f3.5-5.6 that I've used more recently.
I compared with and felt the image quality of the Tokina was better than the Sigma 10-20mm f4.5-5.6 and Tamron 10-24mm. The build of the Tokina and Sigma were superior to the Tamron, too, though the latter had the longest warranty. At the time I was shopping and comparing the larger, heavier Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 was much more expensive, so I also avoided it completely. But it's come down in price quite a bit, might be worth a look now. But I can't compare it's image quality.
The widest of the ultrawides for DX is the Sigma 8-16mm... but that
does have some pretty strong wide angle distortions, such as you wanted to try to avoid. It's not as much distortion as a completely uncorrected fisheye lens renders, though.
Sigma also offers a 12-24mm, but it's actually a full frame lens and because of that is large and expensive, with quite a bit of distortion, would be a waste of money to only use it on an DX camera.
Also, both the Sigma 8-16mm and 12-24mm cannot use standard filters... they have strongly protruding convex front elements. Most of the other ultrawides use 77mm filters, except for the Toki 11-20mm and Sigma 10-20/3.5, both of which require 82mm.
redfordl wrote:
consider looking into the canon 10-18mm ultra wide. the price is right(279) and the reviews very good. good luck in your quest!
Yeah, among ultrawides the Canon 10-18mm IS STM is a the best value of all: smallest, lightest, least expensive at $279... and some of the best image quality, as well as the only one with image stabilization.... it's just a little plasticky. The more expensive, better built Canon 10-22mm USM also offers some of the best image quality (but not IS).
However both those are Canon EF-S lens and won't work on anything other than Canon cameras. Certainly not on a Nikon D7000.
They'd work well on a D7000, but unfortunately both the ultrawide DX Nikkors are ridiculously expensive, and really no better optically than some of the third party lenses. The 10-24mm costs $900 and the 12-24mm $1100. That's at least double the cost, just to get the Nikkor name.