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Feb 22, 2017 08:07:43   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Gene51 wrote:
Susan, I do both. The two images I posted were done on a tripod. The natural scenery was done with a PC-E lens and using a combination of sliding the shift left and right, and a little extra camera rotation. The scene of Manhattan at night was camera rotation only. I don't use a Nodal head, but I am careful to select panos where there are no foreground objects that obscure the background, revealing a parallax error.

You don't have to be particularly accurate composing your individual images either. The stitching program will merge the sections that overlap, even if your camera is not dead level. This was done without a tripod, and I took 8 images to get it all in. I was on Rt 1 in California, near Morro Bay, and unable to set up a tripod - narrow, heavily traveled road with narrow shoulder.
Susan, I do both. The two images I posted were don... (show quote)

Thank you Gene. I was wondering if not being level was important. My ball head can be rotated, but the camera is often not level after I turn it. But since it does not have to terribly accurate I can adjust it. Interesting that you can use moving the camera and tripod sideways along with camera rotation!

Always learn something from you! I looked up PC-E lenses and Nodal heads. Don't think I will add them to my gear, but am wondering if adding a leveling base would be a good idea.

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Feb 22, 2017 10:01:07   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Thank you Gene. I was wondering if not being level was important. My ball head can be rotated, but the camera is often not level after I turn it. But since it does not have to terribly accurate I can adjust it. Interesting that you can use moving the camera and tripod sideways along with camera rotation!

Always learn something from you! I looked up PC-E lenses and Nodal heads. Don't think I will add them to my gear, but am wondering if adding a leveling base would be a good idea.


Thanks for the props, Susan!

Not being level is not that important if shooting hand held - just take enough pictures to cover your scene.

I use a level on my tripod (bowl with level, actually) to make sure the top of the tripod is level, and the in-camera level with the camera on a ball head. I first get the tripod level, then I use the in camera leveling indicators to level the camera (and ball head), and the results are pretty accurate. I find that I can get to within 95% accuracy with very little shift between frames.

With the PC-E lenses, I am not moving the camera, only shifting the lens, and if I need wider, I rotate the camera. The tripod stays put. When you move the camera sideways or up and down, you risk parallax errors.

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Feb 22, 2017 10:46:18   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Gene51 wrote:
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if I need wider, I rotate the camera. The tripod stays put. When you move the camera sideways or up and down, you risk parallax errors.
Doesn't rotating the camera make a {small} change in perspective {the angles will be different}.

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Feb 22, 2017 11:06:23   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Gene51 wrote:
I use a level on my tripod (bowl with level, actually) to make sure the top of the tripod is level, and the in-camera level with the camera on a ball head. I first get the tripod level, then I use the in camera leveling indicators to level the camera (and ball head), and the results are pretty accurate. I find that I can get to within 95% accuracy with very little shift between frames.

I'll put a leveling base on my wish list! Thought about it before, because even if the camera is level, rotating the camera will not stay level unless the tripod is level. (The little "dot" level on the tripod is next to useless...)

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Feb 23, 2017 14:50:26   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
I'll put a leveling base on my wish list! Thought about it before, because even if the camera is level, rotating the camera will not stay level unless the tripod is level. (The little "dot" level on the tripod is next to useless...)


You can get one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Neewer®-Leveling-Cameras-Tripods-Monopods/dp/B00MVNBTDG

But this is much cheaper, weighs nothing, and does the job - it takes a little more to set up because you need to adjust the legs to get the tripod level, but it works well for me.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=882986&gclid=CjwKEAiArbrFBRDL4Oiz97GP2nISJAAmJMFarpWW41TuwE-p-U7uDLU8pH0xAmC6bAAPDM4Yz4uB2RoC4Fbw_wcB&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876%2C92051677682%2C&A=details&Q=

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Feb 23, 2017 15:09:51   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
rehess wrote:
Doesn't rotating the camera make a {small} change in perspective {the angles will be different}.


not for elements in the distance - what you are describing is parallax error. If you are shooting a house from the sidewalk, and there is a tree in the foreground, turning the camera will produce an obvious parallax error. But if there is nothing in the foreground, as in the shots I posted, it is not an issue.

This explains it very well.

http://www.boltnev.com/panoramastitcher/parallax/

Also, shifting the lens on a shift lens also can introduce a bit of parallax, unless you have a collar that attaches the lens directly to the tripod - so in effect you are shifting the camera behind the lens.

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