Film is dead..... really? Let's see what 2017 looks like?
Feb 20, 2017 11:31:59 #
rehess wrote:
My Pentax Super Program SLR body weighs just under 500g
My Pentax K-30 DSLR body weighs over 600g
My Pentax K-30 DSLR body weighs over 600g
I keep wondering why people complain about the weight of their gear. I hope we aren't getting old and too feeble to perform our art.
Feb 20, 2017 12:01:46 #
RWR
Loc: La Mesa, CA
Kiron Kid wrote:
I always find it odd when other DSLR owners complain about the weight of my film SLR rigs. Yes, they are heavier than current DSLR's. But what do they expect, something the weight of a cell phone?
My F5, fully loaded, with body cap, weighs 1588g, while my Df is only 794g. Must be the film!
Feb 20, 2017 12:06:06 #
drklrd wrote:
Is film I mean fresh new film still out there? Whe... (show quote)
When film was the only option, and it was fresh, I had three local film houses that kept fresh film on hand. Even then, to supply the local need, they always kept their fresh film refrigerated or frozen. And before digital, even the pro photographers kept their film frozen or refrigerated... no color shift or loss. They usually shot it regularly however.
and both your 5X7 and Bronica (had a few of those) will outshoot anything digital in the consumer market today.
I get fresh film when I need it... All the emulsions that are left, and new ones coming on. Fresh film is sold by many mail order houses, particularly B&H. But I also get fresh and refrigerated (expired) on eBay from many sources.
I do shoot digital, for fast turn around, but I shoot film when I want quality in the image. The after work for quality in digital is to time consuming and cumbersome for me.
Feb 20, 2017 12:09:02 #
Well, talk about equipment weight.
My day job involves .50 caliber Sniper Rifle and a spotter. It's a real bitch to carry the spotter up to a rooftop!!
The pay makes dealing with equipment weight disappear!
My day job involves .50 caliber Sniper Rifle and a spotter. It's a real bitch to carry the spotter up to a rooftop!!
The pay makes dealing with equipment weight disappear!
Feb 20, 2017 12:22:47 #
drklrd wrote:
Is film I mean fresh new film still out there? Whe... (show quote)
According to their web-site, our local camera store sells fresh film and provides on-site processing, with prices for developing only and for developing + prints. Interestingly, their color processing costs less than their B&W processing.
I need to go there and see for myself {and leave a few bucks behind}
Feb 20, 2017 15:18:55 #
Kuzano wrote:
Well researched and thorough article on the state ... (show quote)
Naw, film isn't dead. I still use my OM1 and OM4 quite often.
Semper Fi
Jim
Feb 20, 2017 16:19:58 #
Kuzano wrote:
Well researched and thorough article on the state ... (show quote)
Lars,
How do you focus your homemade camera? I have two view cameras, a studio rail and a folding field, and a number of lenses for them, Lens-Shutters for them, 120mm, 150mm, 210mm, and a few more funky or odd ones. Is that part behind the typical looking shutter area (iris f-stop & shutter speeds) before the lens board, some sort of focusing mechanism? The whole thing cools cool and beautifully built.
About film coming back. If Kodak would bring back Plus-x I'd start using my 35mm film cameras again. Sure I could use Ilford FP4, but I'm just so used to Plus-x. For 4x5" I now use Tri-x, FP4, and HP5.
Feb 20, 2017 17:45:35 #
lamiaceae wrote:
Lars, br br How do you focus your homemade camera... (show quote)
The lens and Seiko shutter are from the Mamiya Universal Press camera, the piece on the front of the lumber used on the box is a stock Mamiya Press Breech Lock mount. The Shutter behind the lens is a full focus helical as from the Mamiya Press, and the lens is the red dot 75mm that Mamiya Sekor made for the Polaroid 600SE film camera. The lens barely covers 4X5, with a bit of vignetting. The finder is a 65mm finder from the Mamiya Press 65 lens... does the job.
The Linhof back was a great choice as it fit to order, revolves and has Graflok mounts so I can use roll film backs, and the Fujifilm Quickload holder for prepackaged cut sheet film in envelopes. A sheet pulls out and goes back in on the Quickload envelopes for a dark slide.
And yes, even though the prepacked sheet is no longer available, I am:
1) still able to find both dated and fresh Quickloads from B&H and other sources, not to mention eBay
2) working on a reloadable envelope/darkslide system to take any 4X5 cut sheet film emulsion. Reload in the dark of course.
There are a couple of other people playing around with reloadable envelopes for Quickload. Pictures are not the only rewarding aspects of photography. Gear modding and creation is fun as well.
Feb 20, 2017 18:14:36 #
Kuzano wrote:
And you use a glass back to focus??The lens and Seiko shutter are from the Mamiya Uni... (show quote)
Feb 20, 2017 18:53:08 #
My lab high res scans after souring my film. Their scans look great.
Feb 20, 2017 19:04:46 #
Kiron Kid wrote:
My lab high res scans after souring my film. Their scans look great.
what image size are they giving you?
If labs had been doing better scans i might not have switched to digital but they considered 2000x1000 as very high res and I didn't.
The worst of it was that the machines were capable of scanning at higher resolution but it slowed down processing so they couldn't process as many films an hour. Thing is most of the work became digital so they could have done a better job of scanning and still not slowed down printing...
Feb 20, 2017 19:48:01 #
3 Canon 35mm cameras for sale. sort of inherited. probably from 1980's-90's. all 3 are EOS. EOS REBEL, EOS A2, EOS 5. no rebel 1 or 2, just REBEL. same with the 5. no 5A or 5D, just 5. the 5 has a very small ding on the 24-70 lens. previous owner didn't have a filter. also have 2- 300 flash units. similar to the 270 ? not sure cause i'm a Nikon person, lol. all 3 are in good condition. as far as I know, they just need batteries and film.
Feb 20, 2017 20:04:47 #
blackest wrote:
what image size are they giving you?
If labs had been doing better scans i might not have switched to digital but they considered 2000x1000 as very high res and I didn't.
The worst of it was that the machines were capable of scanning at higher resolution but it slowed down processing so they couldn't process as many films an hour. Thing is most of the work became digital so they could have done a better job of scanning and still not slowed down printing...
If labs had been doing better scans i might not have switched to digital but they considered 2000x1000 as very high res and I didn't.
The worst of it was that the machines were capable of scanning at higher resolution but it slowed down processing so they couldn't process as many films an hour. Thing is most of the work became digital so they could have done a better job of scanning and still not slowed down printing...
Their scans are 2000x3000. And they can give me higher if I request it. Always clean. They E mail them to me and return all negs and slides. They do mail order too if you aren't local.
Feb 20, 2017 20:14:45 #
I love film because of how each type of film and different lenses, depending on their age and glass, creates their own unique look.
The enjoyment starts with choosing a film based on the subject and conditions of the day, breaking open the box, removing the foil packing and loading the film. Then, advancing the film frame by frame and carefully composing each photograph; all the time never knowing what the outcome will be until developed. Once I get my negatives I am anxious to scan and look for that one treasure I hope will appear.
This process has kept photography alive and interesting for me.
I now belong to an enthusiastic Film Photography Meet-Up group that gets together once a week, discusses film, the cameras, processes and walks around town to see what subjects we can find.
I would encourage anyone that enjoys photography, that has not tried film, give is a try. I guarantee you know someone that has an old unused film camera packed away somewhere.
The enjoyment starts with choosing a film based on the subject and conditions of the day, breaking open the box, removing the foil packing and loading the film. Then, advancing the film frame by frame and carefully composing each photograph; all the time never knowing what the outcome will be until developed. Once I get my negatives I am anxious to scan and look for that one treasure I hope will appear.
This process has kept photography alive and interesting for me.
I now belong to an enthusiastic Film Photography Meet-Up group that gets together once a week, discusses film, the cameras, processes and walks around town to see what subjects we can find.
I would encourage anyone that enjoys photography, that has not tried film, give is a try. I guarantee you know someone that has an old unused film camera packed away somewhere.
Feb 20, 2017 20:34:11 #
drklrd wrote:
I keep wondering why people complain about the weight of their gear. I hope we aren't getting old and too feeble to perform our art.
Some of mine are a bit heavier:
Pentax Spotmatic - 621g (film)
Pentax K1000 - 606g (film)
Pentax K2 DMD - 685g (film)
Pentax K-20D - 802g (digital)
Pentax K-5 - 740g (digital)
Omega View 45F (w/o lens) 4,000g (film)
All minus battery. The the K-20D with a good sized lens (> 135mm or zoom) can hurts my arthritic wrist, as can the others too.
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