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Feb 2, 2017 06:55:32   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
I know somebody with a Toyota Prius, where the battery is allegedly only good for 100,000 miles, with 350,000 miles on the original battery.


Gotta admit ya got balls fella! Most would never own up to knowing someone who drives a Prius. Does he wear white socks with dark colored trousers?

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Feb 2, 2017 08:13:41   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
Wow, you've taken 380,000 photos in two years!! That's about 520 pictures every day for two years. Even for someone making a living at it that seems like a lot to me.

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Feb 2, 2017 08:16:27   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DJD wrote:
So, looking up my Nikon D7200's estimated shutter life, I see its factory rated at 150,000 cycles. Curious, I used the website: https://www.camerashuttercount.com to see how many times I've snapped the shutter. Come to find out, I've taken over 380,000 photos within a 2 year period


Wow! You've been busy. I'm nowhere near that, although I haven't checked in quite a while. Keep clicking!

That's over 520 shots a day! How do you do it?

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Feb 2, 2017 08:19:47   #
Tom DePuy Loc: Waxhaw, N.C.
 
A camera store near me has a Nikon that someone traded in...
It has over 800,000 shutter actuations on it...
They are not going to try and resell the camera, they are keeping it themselves and are going to try and reach 1,000,000 actuations with it...
I don't believe the numbers that Nikon or the other camera companies give are anything but a guesstament, the shutter could stop working at 1 or at 1,000,000, ya just never know.. and that's just my opinion...

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Feb 2, 2017 08:25:21   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Billyspad wrote:
Gotta admit ya got balls fella! Most would never own up to knowing someone who drives a Prius. Does he wear white socks with dark colored trousers?


Hey! I represent that!
I bought a Prius 12 years ago. And I drive it, too. And I'm thinking about trading it for a new one (only 105K miles on this one).
I think I have some white socks somewhere, but I wear the black ones. And jeans, which start out dark, but I beat the color out of them.

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Feb 2, 2017 08:26:26   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Billyspad wrote:
Gotta admit ya got balls fella! Most would never own up to knowing someone who drives a Prius. Does he wear white socks with dark colored trousers?


Hey, my 89 year old mother-in-law drives a Prius and she has excellent dress sense!

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Feb 2, 2017 09:00:26   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
DJD wrote:
I recently read an article on a camera's shutter life or durability. I had never given any thought to a camera's shutter life, just assumed the shutter would continue to function as long as I had the camera. In that article, it was mentioned that you wouldn't buy a used car without knowing the milage, and you wouldn't buy a used camera without knowing the shutter count. So, looking up my Nikon D7200's estimated shutter life, I see its factory rated at 150,000 cycles. Curious, I used the website: https://www.camerashuttercount.com to see how many times I've snapped the shutter. Come to find out, I've taken over 380,000 photos within a 2 year period. That count seemed unbelievably high. I used two other shutter count websites and found the same count. According to another website I am way over my shutter's life expectancy: http://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/ Anyone else have similar results? Was I just lucky to get that many shots? Does this mean I really ought to give more consideration to buying that D500 I've been eyeing? Thanks.
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Buy the D500 now, before your D7200 blows up in your hands. LOL. If the shutter fails, it can be repaired. I have 190,000 on a D7000 with no problems. The "life" is published as MTBF = mean time between failures. There will be out liers on each side of the curve.

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Feb 2, 2017 09:10:16   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
I am one of the many who will never take that many shots. please note that we are talking about the folks who've never passed a scene they didn't shoot.

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Feb 2, 2017 09:12:36   #
Al Beatty Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
Hi DJD,

I think this a definitely an indicator you should BUY that D500 you've been considering AND keep the D7200 as a backup. Besides, you've been looking for a reason to get the D500 so....! <G> Let us know what you decide and post a picture of your new camera when you get it. Take care & ...

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Feb 2, 2017 09:37:12   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Those shutter counts are incredible. 525 clicks per day average. You would never get close to that with a Sony a55. A camera that failed early in the shutter count category. Not all, but many failed at 55,000 shutter counts.

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Feb 2, 2017 09:46:42   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
DJD wrote:
I recently read an article on a camera's shutter life or durability. I had never given any thought to a camera's shutter life, just assumed the shutter would continue to function as long as I had the camera. In that article, it was mentioned that you wouldn't buy a used car without knowing the milage, and you wouldn't buy a used camera without knowing the shutter count. So, looking up my Nikon D7200's estimated shutter life, I see its factory rated at 150,000 cycles. Curious, I used the website: https://www.camerashuttercount.com to see how many times I've snapped the shutter. Come to find out, I've taken over 380,000 photos within a 2 year period. That count seemed unbelievably high. I used two other shutter count websites and found the same count. According to another website I am way over my shutter's life expectancy: http://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/ Anyone else have similar results? Was I just lucky to get that many shots? Does this mean I really ought to give more consideration to buying that D500 I've been eyeing? Thanks.
I recently read an article on a camera's shutter l... (show quote)

Most DSLRs tend to exceed their rated shutter life significantly. Having said that, 380,000 is getting up there. If your shutter does fail the cost of replacement is high, but still a lot less than the purchase of even a new lower end Nikon body. I wonder what you shoot that required you to takes 380,000 images in 2 years? That's 520 images each and every day. Where do you get the time to even review that many images? And how many do you actually keep? I takes almost 30,000 shots a year and I think that's excessive. But 190,000 images a year? I have to assume it's all fast action sports.

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Feb 2, 2017 09:59:54   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
A friend of mine had over 300000 on his Canon 7D when it finally died. It would have cost more to have it fixed than it was worth so he bought a new camera.

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Feb 2, 2017 10:06:58   #
DJD Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Hi Al, thanks for the encouragement....

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Feb 2, 2017 10:14:37   #
DJD Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
I too was astounded to see that high shutter count. I'm retired and as part of my exercise program I walk a lot and visit a wetlands preserve. I shoot of a lot of birds, practice in my backyard, travel overseas and take a ton of pics, used the time-lapse, etc. However, I still can't account for all those pics. I'm taking an extended trip in the near future and I'd hate to be in the middle of it and have my camera go belly-up. Appreciate your comments.

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Feb 2, 2017 10:19:45   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
DJD wrote:
...Come to find out, I've taken over 380,000 photos within a 2 year period. That count seemed unbelievably high....


So, on average, you have taken roughly 500 photos per day for the last two years? Or, another way of looking at it... a little over 40 shots per hour for every daylight hour of every day the past two years?

It's not impossible, of course... But I'm kinda suspicious of that shutter count. I shoot a lot... and take between 25,000 and 50,000 images per year. I've got a pair of Canon 7D with about 150,000 clicks apiece (i.e. 300,000 for the pair), that were my primary "user" cameras for over five years (I have a third full frame which I put far less mileage on). 380,000 clicks... or about 190,000 per year... is A LOT! If you have actually shot over 4X what I average per year, I'm impressed and hope you got some great shots... odds certainly are that you should. Personally I wouldn't want to spend the time necessary for post-processing and cataloging that many images!

Maybe you could do a rough double-check by counting the image files on your computer or wherever you store them. If the is a mix there from different cameras you've used, you probably can identify the ones taken with this camera by date or with some sort of software. For example, I can see in Lightroom that I have 21,000 images in one location and 42,000 in another, all from 2016. 63,000 is more than my average.... But I know there's a little bit of duplication. Plus I had an unusually intensive week of shooting at a large event in October (more than 17,000 images that week alone).

"Shutter rating" is merely an estimate of MTBF or "mean time between failures". It is basically an average life expectancy for the shutter assembly... one of the few moving components subject to wear and tear in a modern DLSR (but not the only moving parts.... besides, non-moving/solid state components can fail too).

If a camera has a shutter rated for 150,000 clicks.... It's just a guesstimate from the engineers who designed the components. And, as an average, some will not last that long while others will last longer. Most modern computer-controlled, electromechanical devices either fail quickly... right out of the box and well withing warranty.... or have a long, long happy life.

There is a website that compiles data on camera shutter life.... but your model is way too new and there are far too few user reports there to give much useful info. Even if there were more data, it has to always be taken with a grain of salt because the info is voluntarily submitted (i.e., not a "blind" survey sample) and it isn't verified in any way... assumes submitted data is honest and accurate.

If interested, check out https://olegkikin.com/shutterlife/sitemap.php

Since your camera model has limited data, you might get some additional info by looking at earlier models in the series. That again isn't entirely reliable, but it's all we've got. The camera manufacturers' own service centers and repair data would be the most accurate, but none of them make that information publically available.

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