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This is why it's important to learn percentages, kids.
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Jan 22, 2017 08:22:23   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
pipesgt wrote:
Simple math.


Interesting math.

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Jan 22, 2017 08:23:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
stbg1951 wrote:
I think it was calculated on the bill less the state tax and any non food items.


You're being too kind.

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Jan 22, 2017 08:24:06   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Wow! I wonder what kind of fuzzy math the POS system is using.


It's counting on the stupidity or the American people. Which is quite evident.

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Jan 22, 2017 08:25:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
Personally, I think for a restaurant to put that on the bottom of the receipt, is ballsy and insulting. I surely feel sorry for he waitresses and waiters that work there because after seeing that I'd bet a lot of people wouldn't leave a tip at all.


I think it's a good idea if the math is right. I just double to total of the bill, move the decimal point, and there's my tip.

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Jan 22, 2017 08:27:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Bridges wrote:
I usually tip between 15 - 20% depending on level of service. For breakfast though, I will leave extra like 3.00 for a 10.00 meal. They say to over tip breakfast waiters/waitresses because the customers are usually not spending much. A lot of people will just have coffee and a roll, or bowl of cereal and spend 5.00 or less. This does not translate to much income for the employee if regular percentages are used.


Right! Since the tip is based on the total bill, the food the customer orders determines the tip. That's why it's better to be a dinner waiter in an expensive restaurant than a breakfast waiter in a diner.

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Jan 22, 2017 08:31:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I think it's a good idea if the math is right. I just double to total of the bill, move the decimal point, and there's my tip.


Quickest way.

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Jan 22, 2017 08:31:35   #
FrankR Loc: NYC
 
jim quist wrote:
When my waitress brings my change here how I tip. If my change is over $5, say $8, and she brings me 8 one dollar bills, I leave any coins for the tip, or one dollar. If she brings me a 5 and 3 one's, I leave the 3 one's. They play their games, and I play mine. And yes, I used to work for tips.


So if your meal is $41.50, you give them $50, get eight singles and two quarters for change, you leave the quarters or max $1, is that what you're saying? Geez, do you squeek when you walk? And no, you didn't work for tips. Nobody that ever has would be that inconsiderate and crass.

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Jan 22, 2017 08:34:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
pipesgt wrote:
Simple math.


Common core math...

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Jan 22, 2017 08:35:44   #
kodiac1062 Loc: Sarasota, Fl
 
I never tip by what is suggested on receipt. I also don't tip on the tax that is included on the total bill.

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Jan 22, 2017 08:48:59   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
cameranut wrote:
Wow! Who did the math on the bottom of this receipt? Is this for real or photoshopped?


Its for real. Its also psychology. It probably started as an error but you'd be surprised how many customers (especially after having a couple of drinks with dinner) don't bother to do the math, they just look at the "suggested" and mindlessly write it down. They don't realize that they are being cheated for even average service, much less good or great. My Dad was (sometimes) a jerk at certain restaurants if he'd already had a previous encounter with the waiter/waitress. He knew what the approximate bill was going to be and he would lay a stack of $1 bills on the table as their tip. Every time the waiter/waitress screwed up, he would take back a dollar bill. What ever was left was the tip. At one particular restaurant, a couple of the staff recognized him and he nearly always got good service after the first couple of visits. He grew up in the depression in Oklahoma and demanded that he get at least adequate service for an adequate tip. These days, I'm not sure how that attitude would be accepted but he nearly always got good service (at least after the 1st time). He also always warned a new server what he was doing at the beginning of the meal so they had adequate opportunity to adjust. I will also add that he (3 times that I'm aware of so probably more) did add additional tip to the pile if he felt that he'd gotten exceptional service above and beyond his expectations. But he always let the server know where they could improve. I was sometimes surprised that no-one slugged him... lol

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Jan 22, 2017 09:02:57   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
My Dad was (sometimes) a jerk at certain restaurants if he'd already had a previous encounter with the waiter/waitress. He knew what the approximate bill was going to be and he would lay a stack of $1 bills on the table as their tip. Every time the waiter/waitress screwed up, he would take back a dollar bill.


A few weeks ago, I posted an article about someone doing that. If I were the waiter, the customer would get the worst service I could deliver.

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Jan 22, 2017 09:22:17   #
gdoug Loc: Central Florida
 
Is $20.50 the full price of the meal(s)? If you are using coupons to get one free or half price the net will be different. The automated tips are calculated on the full price of the meal(s) as should be if you are tipping a percentage. My 2 cents.

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Jan 22, 2017 09:24:57   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
Personally I think the fact that the waiters/waitresses have to rely on tips is wrong, a impolite, "Want Fries with That" can have minimum wage and yet a person who does real work gets less?, Used to audit restaurants, not nice places to work, BTW lowest item on Cost of Goods Sold, FOOD surprise,
Ok , end of rant, Bob.

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Jan 22, 2017 09:24:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
gdoug wrote:
Is $20.50 the full price of the meal(s)? If you are using coupons to get one free or half price the net will be different. The automated tips are calculated on the full price of the meal(s) as should be if you are tipping a percentage. My 2 cents.


Basically, regardless of the cost of the meal, you are giving an underpaid worker a little something extra.

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Jan 22, 2017 09:36:22   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Basically, regardless of the cost of the meal, you are giving an underpaid worker a little something extra.


The problem is that it is considered to be part of wages! not a thank you for good service, I've been in restaurants where the service deserves 3 cents, and they get annoyed at $3, the management should get rid of that waiter as I just don't go back! Very few places I go have no alternative eating establishments.

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