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Jan 21, 2017 06:08:28   #
jimedge Loc: Wrexham, north Wales
 
For an interesting, entertaining and informative analogue photo site check out www.theonlinedarkroom.com

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Jan 21, 2017 06:09:25   #
jimedge Loc: Wrexham, north Wales
 
For an interesting, entertaining and informative analogue photo site check out www.theonlinedarkroom.com

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Jan 21, 2017 07:27:37   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
phyprof wrote:
This is the first of a series of posts on analogue photography. ...

The more you know about art and science the more you can appreciate the value of film and digital photography. They are both relevant, challenging and fun.

I look forward to an interesting discussion.

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Jan 21, 2017 09:15:27   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
The only thing that is stopping me from using film more often are the difficulties in finding locally a lab that will develop film. By the way, besides being difficult finding a lab when that lab is found the prices are astronomical for film development.
I agree with you, the photographer as an artist selects the media to express his creativity. In total agreement once more, a bad photographer with an excellent camera will not yield good images.
Looking forward to your series.

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Jan 21, 2017 09:27:46   #
BebuLamar
 
phyprof wrote:
This is the first of a series of posts on analogue photography.

First an introduction. I am a retired professor of physics living the life in the Blue Ridge Mountains. I started shooting with film as more than documenting vacations or family get-togethers in 1966 - my freshman year in college. I progressed to developing my own film, then printing my own photos in the college darkroom. I have not taken any formal photography courses but have been to workshops and worked with professional photographers, assisting them and learning from them as time permitted. I currently use a full frame DSLR, iphone, and several 35mm film cameras. The DSLR and 35 mm are Nikons. The films I use are Ilford HP5 Plus, FP4 Plus, Pan F Plus, and Kodak Tri-x, all black and white films.

The posts will consist mainly of articles, or sections of articles from Black + White Photography magazine, published by The GMC Group,

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This is not to be confused with Black & White magazine out of Ross, California.

Black + White Photography is, obviously, about all things black and white in photography. They have articles about photographers using film, digital, iphone, direct printing, and anything else you could imagine.

This will not be a diatribe that film is good and digital is bad. In a previous post from LoneRangeFinder, 35 mm film cameras? What do you use? most replies were stating what film cameras and films were used. There were, however, those who felt the need to tell us they did not use film, why they didn't still use film, and why nobody else should either. Film was compared to taking a horse and buggy to work, using a rotary dial telephone, or using a CRT television. I feel these folks are more concerned with technology and less about art. Latest camera, most pixels, latest version of Photoshop, ... you get the idea, but they are not concerned with the art of photography.

Taking their views and expanding them, painters using oils or water colors should switch to using a Wacom tablet. This way there wouldn't be just one original viewed by a few, but they would have the ability to show their work world wide, almost instantly. They would not be limited to one size of canvas for a particular work, but any size they wanted. If someone liked the piece but the color was wrong for their space, the "artist" could use the color picker and change orange to mauve so the colors would blend in with the client's environment.

Photography is an art, and the choice of medium is up to the artist. There is no right or wrong, good or bad.

If you are a film hater, or think that film is out of fashion, or you just don't like the idea of film, then I would suggest to you that you avoid reading, or responding to, any future posts under the heading Analogue Photography is Alive and Well.

Remember: a good photographer with a bad camera will always take better pictures than a bad photographer with a good camera.

Tim Clinch
A Fortnight at F/8
Black + White Photography
September 2015
This is the first of a series of posts on analogue... (show quote)


I don't think film is well, it's barely alive. Not that I want it that way as I do want it to be alive and well but it's not. Most people who are still actively use film only do B&W. So it's alive because film has a strong advantage in B&W. Film is not well

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Jan 21, 2017 09:52:20   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't think film is well, it's barely alive. Not that I want it that way as I do want it to be alive and well but it's not. Most people who are still actively use film only do B&W. So it's alive because film has a strong advantage in B&W. Film is not well

That may be the case for small format (24x36 mm and smaller) but for medium and large format color is still predominantly film.

The entry level for MF digital is the 33x44 mm format and the price is out of reach for most. Starting from 4.5x6 cm, film is still affordable and so is the equipment, used and new.

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Jan 21, 2017 09:56:52   #
freddusel Loc: Nashville
 
Welcome to you and for your writings. I used film exclusively in mostly 4x5 with some work in 8x10 medium format and a little 35mm for many years until cancer has rendered me too weak to manage the 4x5 that remained my only kit. In November I bought my first digital camera and have been learning how to use it. There are many profound differences between the two methods of capturing perfectly innocent photons. I thrive (if that is an appropriate predicate to describe a person with terminal cancer) on making carbon transfer prints. What I attempt to do is make art. There was another physicist named Robert Oppenheimer who once said: "Science is discipline pursued with passion. Art is passion pursued with discipline." I truly believe that meaningful photography comprises all of the fundamental elements of both disciplines. I look forward to viewing you comments and work. Best, wishes, Fred

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Jan 21, 2017 10:22:49   #
GAS496 Loc: Arizona
 
Tim,

I am a long time subscriber to B+W and a fan of your column and the magazine as well. I cannot tell you how happy I am to see you on this site. As an almost exclusive film shooter and large format 8x10 at that. I never felt at home here. But I have read the blogs each day to keep up with my fellow digital photographers because just like you I am of the opinion photography in general is art it is just a matter of which brush/paint combination we use. Rarely do I chime in on the blogs, some can be well not so friendly.

The enjoyment of photography comes mainly from the process for me. The traveling of the American Southwest, the graceful beauty of the large format process of taking an image, the mixing of the chemistry of the PYRO developer, the amber light of the darkroom, the sound of firing up the 8x10 enlarger, and finally the making of the image. If I am lucky enough to get an image out of the process so much the better. This is pure heaven to me.

As an analog photographer I will go on a three day shoot and come back with perhaps 7 to 9 sheets of film exposed. While my digital friends will come back with many hundreds. We all seek photography for different reasons. To each his or her own.

Great to have you here!!

Jerry

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Jan 21, 2017 10:40:24   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Cool. I still do not own a digital rig. But my film bodies are in constant use.



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Jan 21, 2017 14:36:02   #
ballen2208
 
Thank you

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Jan 21, 2017 15:59:49   #
whitewolfowner
 
Welcome to the hogg and I will be looking forward to your posts. I am a lover of B & W film usage with my favorite film being Ilford HP5. You will find that film is very much making a come back and more so every day as is reflected in film gear prices on the used market starting to rise. They are still a bargain for those seeking to get into the wonderful world of film. Those that are lazy, need not apply, as it obvious to me that is the biggest argument against it.

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Jan 21, 2017 16:57:45   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Prof Clinch, not to discourage you but unless your life in the Blue Ridge is fraught with doldrums and you just have a lot of extra time and think you would enjoy waxing on about film, let me just say that in consideration of the experience in the earlier thread by lonerangefinder that you cited, to help you in the scope of putting the stats in perspective, you might want to assume that out of the 70100 members to this forum, the few who you pointed out who weren't interested in film are not representative of the vast majority of us. Likewise, those who are dead set against digital and overly vocal about it are also most likely a fringe element and a small minority of the total membership. I would venture to say that whatever amount of time you spend with your series will be spent on the few who are in the choir to which you will be preaching. Now, please carry on with my blessings but please understand that I, at age 80, for one, who has an almost unfathomable number of film cameras from 8mm to 8x10, many of which are in periodic use, will not be with you looking backwards from here in the "Rockies," just in case you're interested. Were I you, I would spend my time out on "the trail" with my Nikon where the use of my time would no doubt be vastly more appreciated, not to sound perfectly selfish. Our time is finite and the teaching potential here is virtually without any external reward of any sort and will likely descend to little more than verbal conflict after the initial effects of the endorphins of nostalgia wear off.

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Jan 21, 2017 17:01:36   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
phyprof wrote:
Thank you. I hope that what I post is informative or at least interesting. I agree that Kodak is not selling a million rolls a day, but they are going to bring back Ektachrome, or already have. I know there are many photographers that would like them to bring back Kodachrome, including Paul Simon. I like the "film look" that post processing can't really duplicate, at least from my point of view. I do like taking a photo and seeing if the exposure is good and the composition is what I wanted as soon as I press the button. And I do shoot more digital than film, for the time being. When I find good access top a darkroom, or get one built at our home, then I think film will be used more.

I welcome comments and constructive criticism. Also, anything anyone sees that I am missing please add it to this series.


"Success is not found in what you have achieved, but rather in who you have become."
- Larry Bertlemann
Thank you. I hope that what I post is informative ... (show quote)


There actually were "hints" coming out of Kodak a few weeks back, that Kodachrome just might also be coming back ?????

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Jan 21, 2017 17:36:26   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
gessman wrote:
Prof Clinch, not to discourage ...

There are plenty of us here who will be grateful to hear from someone with more knowledge and experience, even if some of the information turns out to be a review of things we already know.

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Jan 21, 2017 17:39:56   #
Martino Loc: Northwest Florida
 
Well done! I photographed with film of various types from being a kid in the late '60s right through to the late '90s. I miss shooting slides, and now wish I hadn't sold my film cameras in the early 2000s.

Learning to shoot and process b&w with Brian Nevitt at Brunel University was a great experience.

I'm looking forward to your contributions.

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