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Jan 3, 2017 11:18:59   #
Richard2673 Loc: Eastern Oregon
 
Given that they are about the same prices right now - which one would be the best suited for my photography? Shoot mostly flowers, close up and landscapes. Have yet to do any sports or anything that requires rapid shooting. And will never use the the video recording stuff. Any suggestions?? Would like to be able to have some of my photos printed at about 24" x 36" inches.

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Jan 3, 2017 11:50:57   #
Regis Loc: Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
 
Richard2673 wrote:
Given that they are about the same prices right now - which one would be the best suited for my photography? Shoot mostly flowers, close up and landscapes. Have yet to do any sports or anything that requires rapid shooting. And will never use the the video recording stuff. Any suggestions?? Would like to be able to have some of my photos printed at about 24" x 36" inches.


5Dsr for detailed landscape photos, flowers or close-ups. I have this camera and have used it for these subjects as well as wild-life.

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Jan 3, 2017 12:43:41   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Richard2673 wrote:
Given that they are about the same prices right now - which one would be the best suited for my photography? Shoot mostly flowers, close up and landscapes. Have yet to do any sports or anything that requires rapid shooting. And will never use the the video recording stuff. Any suggestions?? Would like to be able to have some of my photos printed at about 24" x 36" inches.


Richard, if you're not doing sports and have the pick of the litter, money-wise, might as well go with the 5Dsr.
I use the 5Ds for portraits and a lot of general shooting and it's awesome.
I do use it also for sports, it does have the same focus system as Canon's sports cameras. It just doesn't have the large buffer.
I also have a 7dmkll that I use when I need more buffer but if I don't need the buffer I use the 5, even for action.
It has amazing detail and can be cropped deeply.
Just have a couple of sharp lenses to go with it for best detail. Good luck
SS

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Jan 3, 2017 16:05:38   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Richard2673 wrote:
Given that they are about the same prices right now - which one would be the best suited for my photography? Shoot mostly flowers, close up and landscapes. Have yet to do any sports or anything that requires rapid shooting. And will never use the the video recording stuff. Any suggestions?? Would like to be able to have some of my photos printed at about 24" x 36" inches.


No sports, no video, don't mind huge files and therefore slower processing, but do want max IQ - the 5Dsr

All around do anything and sports/video/other fast subjects if you change your mind about those later, want to keep the file sizes smaller, built in wifi for remote control, touch screen, better low lite/higher ISO - the 5DIV

Detailed comparison here: http://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-5DS-R-vs-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-IV

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Jan 3, 2017 16:34:56   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
robertjerl wrote:
No sports, no video, don't mind huge files and therefore slower processing, but do want max IQ - the 5Dsr

All around do anything and sports/video/other fast subjects if you change your mind about those later, want to keep the file sizes smaller, built in wifi for remote control, touch screen, better low lite/higher ISO - the 5DIV

Detailed comparison here: http://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-5DS-R-vs-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-IV


Interesting comparison but their comparison of available lenses is a bit off. They show 200 for each body but claim that on the 5DS R only 196 will work because 4 won't cover the sensor. Both bodies have identical sized sensors. What works on one will work on the other. A little further on they also state that the 5DS R is a bit more compact. According to the dimensions they have given they both are almost identical in size with the 5DS R being actually a bit wider, but only by one mm. Plus, a slight bit heavier. (Must be all those extra pixels!)
Otherwise, interesting. I didn't realize the 2 cameras were so closely matched in so many ways.

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Jan 3, 2017 17:24:41   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
LFingar wrote:
Interesting comparison but their comparison of available lenses is a bit off. They show 200 for each body but claim that on the 5DS R only 196 will work because 4 won't cover the sensor. Both bodies have identical sized sensors. What works on one will work on the other. A little further on they also state that the 5DS R is a bit more compact. According to the dimensions they have given they both are almost identical in size with the 5DS R being actually a bit wider, but only by one mm. Plus, a slight bit heavier. (Must be all those extra pixels!)
Otherwise, interesting. I didn't realize the 2 cameras were so closely matched in so many ways.
Interesting comparison but their comparison of ava... (show quote)


LF, many just can't get past the fps and buffer. But the reality is, that other than the fps, and buffer the two 5s's are pretty closely matched to a 1Dx but with 3 times the mp! That makes them extremely versatile!!!
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Jan 3, 2017 17:45:32   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
SharpShooter wrote:
LF, many just can't get past the fps and buffer. But the reality is, that other than the fps, and buffer the two 5s's are pretty closely matched to a 1Dx but with 3 times the mp! That makes them extremely versatile!!!
SS


Maybe, by the time the 5DS MKII comes out, I will have been a good enough boy to have earned myself a treat!

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Jan 3, 2017 20:43:38   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
LFingar wrote:
Maybe, by the time the 5DS MKII comes out, I will have been a good enough boy to have earned myself a treat!


I earned a treat this year but the wife made me share it with the two dogs!!!
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Jan 4, 2017 06:18:11   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Richard2673 wrote:
Given that they are about the same prices right now - which one would be the best suited for my photography? Shoot mostly flowers, close up and landscapes. Have yet to do any sports or anything that requires rapid shooting. And will never use the the video recording stuff. Any suggestions?? Would like to be able to have some of my photos printed at about 24" x 36" inches.

Well, you can take either Ds or Dr off your list right away, if you thinking about shooting sports, for that, a 7D MII or 1D X MII would be your best bet. Other then that the Mark IV is the most versatile of the bunch and will give you the best results as a all-around shooter. While not providing the same resolution as a Ds or Dr, it will give you plenty of resolution for most anything and of course, it will allow you to print 24x36" prints!

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Jan 4, 2017 09:32:04   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
If there is no or very little "action" in your life (sorry about that), then the 5DSR is probably your best choice. If you anticipate a getting a little "action", the 5DIV is probably your better option. More versatile and the sensor size is more that sufficient to give you those large prints, unless you want to make billboards.

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Jan 4, 2017 09:44:28   #
Zaruka Loc: Illinois
 
I had a similar decision to make and because I did more sunsets, landscapes and occasional cropping I went with the 5DS R. It has taken me a bit longer to know how to use it than I expected but I am very satisfied with the quality of images. I think it is true that the higher megapixel cameras are more prone to blur. I do not think this is the camera for shooting action but I may have to give it a try.
I did get a payment from a photo book project so that helped offset the cost.

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Jan 4, 2017 09:46:36   #
cactuspic Loc: Dallas, TX
 
I shoot both of the cameras. For sheer detail the 5DS r can't be beat. Landscape and macros results are fantastic. But its low light capability and it's noise at higher ISOs is not great. The Mark IV is a great camera for available light, higher ISO shots. It captures the available light shots that I dreamed of when I was a kid in the '60's pushing black and white film till the grain got to the size of basketballs. (OK, slight hyperbole) The Mark IV is the best general camera that I've shot with. That said, if you want the maximum detail from your landscapes or macros, the 5DS r sings a Sirens's song. I would go for the r version of the 5DS line if I chose that route. The additional clarity gained by eliminating the filter outweighs the risk of moire in most landscape and macro work. Both the Mark IV and the DS r camera will handle 24" x 36" prints....easily.

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Jan 4, 2017 11:07:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Regis wrote:
5Dsr for detailed landscape photos, flowers or close-ups. I have this camera and have used it for these subjects as well as wild-life.



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Jan 4, 2017 11:50:23   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Richard2673 wrote:
Given that they are about the same prices right now - which one would be the best suited for my photography? Shoot mostly flowers, close up and landscapes. Have yet to do any sports or anything that requires rapid shooting. And will never use the the video recording stuff. Any suggestions?? Would like to be able to have some of my photos printed at about 24" x 36" inches.


5DS or 5DS-R would be a wonderful camera for still life, portraits, macro, close-ups, landscapes, architecture... especially for anyone planning to print BIG.

They are not ideal sports, action, wildlife, birding, high ISO/low light or video cameras. For any of those, 5D IV would be a better choice and in some cases an APS-C would be even better.

Keep in mind that it's not only the camera. A 50MP camera demands pretty high quality lenses, too, in order to take advantage of all those pixels. You'll also need a fairly potent computer with lots of storage space to work with those big old files.

The difference between the two 5DS models is that the "R" has a "weakened" anti-alias filter, in order to capture that very last little bit of fine detail. But that also makes the "R" more at risk of moiré problems in images, which are more likely to show up cityscape, architecture, fashion or product shots with fabrics.... any time there's a repetitive pattern. Google "moiré", if you need more info. It can be dealt with in post-processing, at least to some extent.

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Jan 4, 2017 14:12:42   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
The choice is yours. I chose the 5D Mark IV. I like all the bells and whistles it has. Love the touch screen and I love the advanced focus system. Not so keen on the WiFi, probably won't ever use it but who knows. Probably won't use the GPS either. But the 30mp files are fine for me. I like the 7fps burst and larger buffer so I can use this body for most wildlife if I choose to.

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