Why Can't Nikon Innovate Like Canon?!?!
Jan 3, 2017 08:39:40 #
Leitz
Loc: Solms
SharpShooter wrote:
Yes, we need to RING IN the new year with a good'o... (show quote)
Help for inferiority complex is but a click away:
https://www.psychiatry.org/
Jan 3, 2017 08:40:21 #
Fotomacher wrote:
Meanwhile I'm using a 34-year-old lens on my Pentax K-30, with full light metering in all modes {P, M, Av, Tv}, and I don't need a chart to tell which lenses work with what cameras .... but I'm not sure what boosterism solves.The lack of innovation allows me to use a 25 year old 35mm f/1.4 AI-s lens on my current D810 body with full light metering in M and A modes. Also using AF-D lenses with full capabilities. Hmmm, maybe Nikons are built for serious photographers whilst Canons and made for tech-nerds who need the latest electronic bells/whistles to feel good? Just a question.......
I'm glad to see that the 2017 version of SS can have fun and rile up Nikon partisans just as the 2016 version did.
Jan 3, 2017 08:49:20 #
DavidPine wrote:
Wow! I'll put my D810 and D500 up against most anything. On the other hand I really don't care what others use because I shoot to please me. Have fun.
David Right on
Jan 3, 2017 08:52:52 #
Some outfit should make a hybrid called the Nican or Canik with the best from both. (the hell with patents). At 1/2 the price. Kinda sounds like a Pentax K-1, As well as a super duper adaptor that will be able to mount either Canon or Nikon lens on that body
Jan 3, 2017 08:56:15 #
Fotomacher wrote:
The lack of innovation allows me to use a 25 year old 35mm f/1.4 AI-s lens on my current D810 body with full light metering in M and A modes. Also using AF-D lenses with full capabilities. Hmmm, maybe Nikons are built for serious photographers whilst Canons and made for tech-nerds who need the latest electronic bells/whistles to feel good? Just a question.......
Keep in mind that any Canon lens less than 30 years old can be used on current Canon DSLR.
Jan 3, 2017 09:12:45 #
I own and shoot both Canon and Nikon, and I like both, although I find Canon overall easier to use.
Many Nikon owners will say Nikon is better because, they own Nikon. Same holds true for Canon users.
But what about those who use both?! Personally I don't care what one person or another says about either brand. If it works and does what you want and expect it to do then it's ok.
Many Nikon owners will say Nikon is better because, they own Nikon. Same holds true for Canon users.
But what about those who use both?! Personally I don't care what one person or another says about either brand. If it works and does what you want and expect it to do then it's ok.
Jan 3, 2017 09:57:25 #
Fotomacher wrote:
The lack of innovation allows me to use a 25 year old 35mm f/1.4 AI-s lens on my current D810 body with full light metering in M and A modes. Also using AF-D lenses with full capabilities. Hmmm, maybe Nikons are built for serious photographers whilst Canons and made for tech-nerds who need the latest electronic bells/whistles to feel good? Just a question.......
You have to get some older lenses to use that as the basis for your argument. Canon changed to the EOS format in 1987 some 29 years ago, all of their lenses produced since that date are completely compatible with any Canon EOS camera today, and that is all of the features of the lens not just some.
But btw, I love the new Nikon D500 and think it is a great camera as well as lots of other Nikons. I would love to afford to have both brands but alas I cannot!
Jan 3, 2017 10:06:21 #
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Jan 3, 2017 10:44:06 #
Mac wrote:
This thread belongs in General-Chit-Chat.
That might be true were it not for the possibility that some of the subject matter here has the potential to rise to the level of discussion regarding issues beyond perceived quality of specific models. Corporate leadership, shifting of priorities, attention (or lack thereof) of end users needs and desires, and even earthquakes and their effect on infrastructure are important points of discussion.
If this thread is cursed with the traditional Canon versus Nikon rhetoric, the "My Xxxxx takes better pictures than your Yyyyy" drivel, it will end up in Chit-Chat -or even the attic. If, however, the members will rise to the level of mature adults discussing the real issues, then this thread has the potential to provide a profound beginning to the new year.
If someone wants to do some interesting research, look at the geographical (and geophysical) locations of some of the manufacturing plants of the particular companies under discussion.
Jan 3, 2017 10:44:53 #
Depressing, isn't it, Sharpshooter? You keep praising Canon products relentlessly, yet the value of your Canon stock shares just keeps falling, month after month, year after year. Maybe time to dump those worthless Canon shares and invest in Nikon instead! At least Nikon knows how to generate profit now and then.
Jan 3, 2017 10:49:46 #
Mogul wrote:
That might be true were it not for the possibility... (show quote)
Anything is possible and hope springs eternal. Keep your fingers crossed and your head down.
Honestly though, I believe this thread was started solely to stir things up.
Jan 3, 2017 10:56:14 #
Mac wrote:
Anything is possible and hope springs eternal. Keep your fingers crossed and your head down.
Honestly though, I believe this thread was started solely to stir things up.
Honestly though, I believe this thread was started solely to stir things up.
Your last sentence was spot on. Let's see what direction it takes from here. Stirring the pot is often necessary to bring the best to the top; let's hope we don't end up just scorching the bottom of the pot.
Jan 3, 2017 11:44:58 #
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Bill, who said anything about photographers??
Unless you're a photographer and happen to also be an engineer at Canikon, this is about cameras. Not whether one is better than the other, it's about who innovates. I'm glad I woke you up Bill, but don't wander, forget about the photographer!!! LoL
SS
billnikon wrote:
As a final note, it has never been and shall never be the brand that makes the photographer, it is, in the final analysis, the photographer that makes the difference, it has never been the equipment. I find your post very telling, it says a lot about you.
Bill, who said anything about photographers??
Unless you're a photographer and happen to also be an engineer at Canikon, this is about cameras. Not whether one is better than the other, it's about who innovates. I'm glad I woke you up Bill, but don't wander, forget about the photographer!!! LoL
SS
Jan 3, 2017 12:07:07 #
RWR
Loc: La Mesa, CA
SharpShooter wrote:
The Canon T90. It changed the world of camera design and the way EVERY camera looked in the future, including Nikons.
The T90 of 1986 was a fine professional camera, but it wasn’t designed in-house by Canon. The “new” shape is not too unlike a motor-driven Nikon FM of 1977. And the shape of modern reflex cameras is not necessarily appealing to everyone - at least one writer aptly describes them as looking like a squashed doughnut with handles on the side. Personally, I didn’t begin to take digital seriously until Nikon released the Df, the only DSLR I can use conveniently on all my bellows and tripods. If some other company had been innovative enough to make a similar DSLR first, that’s what I’d be using today. For digital, at least. Oh, Happy New Year!
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