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I'm offering "free" holiday pet photos as a way to practice...your opinion?
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Nov 29, 2016 14:23:19   #
Billy Bob
 
anGODbless

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Nov 29, 2016 14:43:29   #
Djedi
 
Billy Bob wrote:
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Like the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

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Nov 29, 2016 14:49:30   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
Gene51 wrote:
There is another alternative, and you will be doing the shelters a big service - contact the local SPCA, private shelters and fosters and offer them your services. I have been doing that myself for a few years - and it doesn't get more rewarding than when a dog or cat that you photographed gets adopted on the basis of the evocative image you created donated to the shelter. When your images are eye-catching, they will generate buzz and sometimes a pet can have a home in a few days - and you just might have made a life and death difference. I target the kill shelters more often than the no-kill ones for obvious reasons.

Usually shelters are more than grateful for the offer, and very welcoming and accommodating. One even let me bring a portable studio (background, lights, stands, etc) and gave me a room and a helper/handler.

I can think of no better way to get to where you want to be as far as your pictures are concerned, and at the same time do the adoption community a big solid.

Here are a few images that have resulted in quick adoptions. The MinPin below was adopted three days after the image was posted. It got over 200 likes.

You'll find that attempting to approach both parts of your dilemma, making better images and learning to deal with people - at the same time may result in some missteps along the way - unless you're the type that lives for challenge of it all. I suggest you get your photo skills solidly under your belt - regardless of whether you take documentary stuff like the images below - or you go for a more stylized and personal look, or the Kitty Kitsch look where you dress up the cats (or dogs) in outfits and use cute props. Once you have the confidence you need, you can then start charging what the jobs are worth. Check to see what others are doing in your area, and charge as much, or more, as they do. Charging more is a little trick that I use when I think there will be some pricing sensitivity - charging more implies better quality - and pet owners often respond to that with their checkbooks. Make sure you have liability insurance, your equipment is in good working order, you have backup gear, and your gear is insured. Having a good contract goes without saying, and collecting your shooting fee up front - half when they reserve the date, and the rest when you arrive with your gear to take the shot - will ensure that you won't get stiffed. Making watermarked, low res medium quality images available for viewing and selection can work, but it is always better to do that in person so you can guide them through the process and help them with any questions about what the will be getting.

Never ever do work for otherwise paying clients for free just because you are new at this. It will be hard to charge them or anyone else later. Never give stuff (prints, albums, coffee mugs, greeting cards etc) away either. Do not provide electronic versions of your images, for them to print poorly at Walgreens. You do want to maintain control over the finished product.
There is another alternative, and you will be doin... (show quote)


Nice photographs and a keen idea. I have no pets right now because of apartment rules, but I've been a doglover all my life and all my dogs have come from Humane Society adoption. This is a super service you are performing. And it would be perfect for Annie. I'm sure that the Humane Society would be glad to let you have a small slug at the lower right corner with your name and phone. It would be great advertising as well as a training venue.

A set of portable lights can be created from 2-3 inexpensive flash units (Yongnuo or equal) and a couple of cheap bowl type softboxes.

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Nov 29, 2016 14:53:32   #
grillmaster5062
 
Some very nice images, Gene51. I can see why some of the animals got adopted so quickly.

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Nov 29, 2016 15:44:01   #
ValliPride Loc: Lost in Florida
 
I volunteer for the Greyhounds, I use my talent to save these Beautiful Hounds. Thats some real good advice to volunteer for the shelters. The satisfaction I receive by saving these Dogs are Priceless. 🐾🐾

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Nov 29, 2016 16:15:45   #
boomer826 Loc: Florida gulf coast
 
Nothing is free !! Your time, your equipment, post processing, travel, they all cost you money in the long run.

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Nov 29, 2016 16:35:30   #
Szalajj Loc: Salem, NH
 
boomer826 wrote:
Nothing is free !! Your time, your equipment, post processing, travel, they all cost you money in the long run.

If you're worried about the mileage and hourly costs, calculate the costs of your time on an hourly basis, and deduct it as a Charitable Contribution on your taxes, IF it meets the letter of the law in your state! You will have to keep meticulous records of the time and mileage involved!

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Nov 29, 2016 16:54:07   #
Toby
 
Szalajj wrote:
If you're worried about the mileage and hourly costs, calculate the costs of your time on an hourly basis, and deduct it as a Charitable Contribution on your taxes, IF it meets the letter of the law in your state! You will have to keep meticulous records of the time and mileage involved!


I don't believe you can deduct an hourly cost for your time. If you could no one would pay any taxes. You can deduct mileage and materials at your cost not the value you place on your photos.

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Nov 29, 2016 17:59:07   #
korat Loc: Eastern Shore Virginia
 
xman222 wrote:
Please listen to Gene51, he gives you the best possible advice.
I repeat, NEVER give your work free to the public, it damages the profession and hurts those making a living in photography.
If you need practice shoot YOUR OWN dog in a hundred different locations, then your family's, etc.
I'll enclose a couple of my own dog here to show what's possible.


Nice shots.

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Nov 30, 2016 02:46:16   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
I would agree with those who warn you not to do this for free. If it's free, it will not be valued or appreciated! I also like the idea of doing your free work for animal shelters. I have had some interest in that, but my issue would be that I would want to bring them all home as I'm a big pet lover . This post and it's responses had hit a cord with me and I might just do the shelter thing as my way of helping to save animals. I have always enjoyed photographing my own pets so why not help out. Gene, you photos are wonderful and have inspired me to give this more thought. Thanks.

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Nov 30, 2016 06:58:42   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
WayneW wrote:
AnnieB, Be sure to edit your images before the pet owners see them. Before your shoot starts, study and try to dissect Gene51's awesome pet images! Awesome pet shots Gene!
Ex: Sophie Gamand's Shelter Dogs- http://www.sophiegamand.com/gallery


Thanks Wayne!

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Nov 30, 2016 07:00:38   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
cjc2 wrote:
I would agree with those who warn you not to do this for free. If it's free, it will not be valued or appreciated! I also like the idea of doing your free work for animal shelters. I have had some interest in that, but my issue would be that I would want to bring them all home as I'm a big pet lover . This post and it's responses had hit a cord with me and I might just do the shelter thing as my way of helping to save animals. I have always enjoyed photographing my own pets so why not help out. Gene, you photos are wonderful and have inspired me to give this more thought. Thanks.
I would agree with those who warn you not to do th... (show quote)


You have no idea how hard it is to leave the little guys at the shelter - but there is solace in knowing that they will find a forever home, and because of your involvement, that will happen sooner. Thanks for the kind words!

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Nov 30, 2016 07:02:06   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
grillmaster5062 wrote:
Some very nice images, Gene51. I can see why some of the animals got adopted so quickly.


Thanks!

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Nov 30, 2016 07:08:20   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
Nice photographs and a keen idea. I have no pets right now because of apartment rules, but I've been a doglover all my life and all my dogs have come from Humane Society adoption. This is a super service you are performing. And it would be perfect for Annie. I'm sure that the Humane Society would be glad to let you have a small slug at the lower right corner with your name and phone. It would be great advertising as well as a training venue.

A set of portable lights can be created from 2-3 inexpensive flash units (Yongnuo or equal) and a couple of cheap bowl type softboxes.
Nice photographs and a keen idea. I have no pets r... (show quote)


Thanks for the kind words! In the shots I posted I did exactly that - used a collapsible softbox, or shoot through umbrellas, with a muslin background. I have a collection of a dozen or so Sunpak speedlights which I buy on eBay for $10-$25 - and Yongnuo triggers. I don't do it for the promotional aspects, but I have gotten some inquiries that I pass along to my assistant, who is learning photography and is an animal lover as well. I work as her "assistant" when she gets a gig, just to help keep her organized and improve the quality of the images she produces for her paying clients. It's all good.

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Nov 30, 2016 07:11:12   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
xman222 wrote:
Please listen to Gene51, he gives you the best possible advice.
I repeat, NEVER give your work free to the public, it damages the profession and hurts those making a living in photography.
If you need practice shoot YOUR OWN dog in a hundred different locations, then your family's, etc.
I'll enclose a couple of my own dog here to show what's possible.


Absolutely beautiful - and your pictures are pretty good too!

No, seriously you can see the personality - noble and confident - you are both very lucky to have each other!

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