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Sep 13, 2016 02:25:08   #
Lundberg02
 
Iridient RAW Developer solves all your problems with little or no effort. Win people will welcome that version later this year or more likely spring 2017.

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Sep 13, 2016 05:50:06   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
kd7eir wrote:
Again, EXTRA STEPS mandated by Lightroom. I prefer my software to make my life EASIER, and adding EXTRA STEPS is not EASIER.

Want to QUICKLY edit a single new image? Lightroom makes you use an ADDITIONAL piece of software for that PRIVILEGE. And even then Lightroom is not aware of that image.

Everything that that you just described needing THREE applications to accomplish (ACR/Bridge/Lightroom) I can do in ONE application with DxO.

As for backups, Lightroom requires you to create an EXTRA step when creating your backup routine - it makes no difference that it may be automated from that point, it STILL requires EXTRA STEPS in the setup. That is the opposite of user-friendly. My backup routine is simple - backup my image folders. One step and DONE. Anytime you add complexity to a task, it becomes exponentially easier for that task to fail.

I have NEVER lost an image or keywords or edits using DxO. Just by reading these forum's it's obvious that people lose images/keywords/edits via the ACR/Lightroom/Bridge/Photoshop schema.

Import 100 images in Lightroom, set up all your keywords, make several edits - Oh NO! my computer crashed! My Lightroom catalog is corrupted and I didn't have a chance to back it up before the crash. That's OK, just start over FROM THE BEGINNING.

Same scenario with DxO? There is no catalog to corrupt, so no starting over. You MAY lose the work you were doing on the SINGLE IMAGE that you were working on at the time of the crash, but everything else is already completed. Databases, which the Lightroom catalog is, are notoriously susceptible to corruption if being edited during a computer crash.

There is no way to spin it - Lightroom adds complexity to the workflow that DxO does not. This added complexity makes data loss far more likely.

Again, many people like it, and that's fine. But that popularity does NOT erase the FACT that Lightroom adds complexity to the workflow that is entirely unnecessary.
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One point on catalog corruption and lost data I missed. If you have the "Automatically Write Metadata Changes into XMP" box checked in Catalog Settings, Metadat tab, you will never lose any edits on any other files, even if you totally corrupt your catalog, or stop using LR altogether.

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Sep 13, 2016 05:52:24   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
spectraflash wrote:
There are many options for image processing and amateur photographers usually settle on a software solution without considering some critical facts. Adobe Photoshop with Lightroom costs 33 cents a day. For less than a cup of coffee, you can have the most widely used, industry leading software. These two programs are easy to learn and enjoyable to master. It's not like learning Quickbooks or Excel. The results of everything you learn are instantly and visibly tangible. It's a totally fun experience!

I'm a professional shooter and bought Lightroom a few years ago. Not only is the software very intuitive, it is a powerful, non-destructive editing package with features that balance efficient productivity and unrivaled creativity. Couple Lightroom with Photoshop, which I use for post-production clean ups, and you have an editing solution that no other software can begin to match. Photoshop offers so many advantages over other editing programs and there are dozens of top-rated, third party applications that dovetail into its interface. Countless plug-ins and presets are available, one of which is the recent free release of the Google Nik suite of plug-ins. There are hundreds of free online tutorials too. Youtube is a veritable library of free learning.

Gimp, DPP and the others have only a fragment of the image editing market share for a reason. They're inferior offerings compared to the Adobe solution. That said, you can get good results without Photoshop and Lightroom. But if you aspire to improve your photography, why would you limit your capabilities right from the start?

Best of luck to you.
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Sep 13, 2016 07:34:01   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
No one program addresses all the needs of a demanding photographer with a large number of old and new photo to keep track of.
There is need for all three popular programs:
Lightroom
DxO Optic Pro
PhotoShop

Lightroom is best at letting you assign keywords that will help you locate a particular image you are looking for. It takes discipline to assign these words to each photo.
DxO is best at pulling the best image out of a RAW file.
PhotoShop is best at artistic corrections of minor and gross errors. It can hide dust spots on your sensor, remove a tree growing out of someone head, or even add a new person to a group shoot that was never there!

There are learning curves to all three programs. DxO is very automated with a lot of artificial intelligence AI built into it, yet the user is in complete control of when to use these tools. DxO is easy learn and is intuitive.

LR can be very confusing to learn but worth the effort.

PhotoShop is the professionals tool. It can take a lifetime to master all of it and it changes frequently with updates.

The good news is that all three of these programs recognize their own limitations and allow you, the user, to hand off the image to the best program best suited to do the task that needs to be accomplished.

Here is a link to a post I made that compares RAW file to JPG conversion as done by LR and DxO Optics Pro:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-410934-1.html

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Sep 13, 2016 08:13:48   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
burkphoto wrote:


Gene, thanks for the dose of clarity. Some of this thread has been off track.


No problem, Bill. There is a lot of misunderstanding out there, and some who are quite vocal and armed with misinformation. The information needs to be accurately represented, especially for the newcomers and the less familiar.

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