Carl D wrote:
Are we going to do this for every person in the armed forces as well? Then why are cops and their families any better?
Instead of trying to spill acid all over a good idea, why don't you start up a similar program for our military?
rich6467 wrote:
If I wanted to, how long do you think it would take to hack into the web site?
P.S. "They" hacked into my/our DoD clearance web site and got security info on 200k employees.
Yes, REALLY!!!!!!
What makes you think that the photos are going to be on a website?
LFingar wrote:
Instead of trying to spill acid all over a good idea, why don't you start up a similar program for our military?
The point I'm trying to make is soldiers and sailors are getting killed everyday and we don't even know their name, but let a few cops get killed and it's a national tragedy. They both knew when they signed up for the job that getting killed was a possibility, so what makes one more special than the other?
Carl D wrote:
The point I'm trying to make is soldiers and sailors are getting killed everyday and we don't even know their name, but let a few cops get killed and it's a national tragedy. They both knew when they signed up for the job that getting killed was a possibility, so what makes one more special than the other?
One is not more special than the other. The message was provided in the spirit of showing positive support for one group of men and women that provide a valuable service to this country.
There have long been groups that show their support for the men and women in our armed forces. They generally try to keep their message of support positive, without attacking or minimizing the contributions of some other group's service.
Again, please feel free to help start a similar program in your area for active duty military... or firefighters... or EMTs... or any other group of service providers that you personally feel are deserving. I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated.
SteveR wrote:
After the recent police shootings in Dallas, a daughter of an officer realized that she had not had a photograph with her police officer father in nine years. As a result, she organized professional photographers to volunteer to take photographs of DPD officers and their families. She hopes to spread this event to other police departments as well.
That's cool. I bet they really appreciate it.
cjc2
Loc: Hellertown PA
This is a wonderful idea and something I'm going to think about. Thanks for sharing.
Please guys, we live in a different world, be careful.
Carl D wrote:
The point I'm trying to make is soldiers and sailors are getting killed everyday and we don't even know their name, but let a few cops get killed and it's a national tragedy. They both knew when they signed up for the job that getting killed was a possibility, so what makes one more special than the other?
Carl....You have a good point, actually. This program was initiated by the daughter of a police officer in Dallas when she realized that she had not had a photograph taken with her father in ten years. It was a grass roots program in which she recruited the photographers and put the program together. It is community based. There is no reason that this could not be done in the military, either. There is no reason why
YOU could not initiate a program of photographing all military personnel and their families in your community.
IT'S UP TO YOU, BUDDY, NOT ANYBODY ELSE.
rich6467 wrote:
Just what you need, all the bad guys knowing what you and your family look like
What an idiotic remark......The "BAD GUYS" will find their target with or without family pictures.
IN GLOCK WE TRUST
Carl D wrote:
The point I'm trying to make is soldiers and sailors are getting killed everyday and we don't even know their name, but let a few cops get killed and it's a national tragedy. They both knew when they signed up for the job that getting killed was a possibility, so what makes one more special than the other?
Every idea has a starting point, but because this one is fresh out of the box and hasn't matured enough yet to include other groups you're not happy. Or maybe you just don't like the fact that it benefits police officers and their families. Whatever your reason, if it bothers you that much then stop your whining and get out their and start offering your services to military families.
rich6467 wrote:
Just what you need, all the bad guys knowing what you and your family look like
From reading the posts so far it would seem that the photos these people are talking about are mostly for the families themselves. Photos of academy graduating classes and promotions are commonly printed in local newspapers. But what is wrong with that. I am an ex cop and have no problem with my photo ever being in a newspaper. 99% of those photos show police officers doing something good for the community and should be printed for the community paper. Let's remember that being a LEO is generally regarded as an honorable profession. It is only in the last 8 years that is has been denigrated by some politicians and then the BLM crowd.
Dennis
rich6467 wrote:
If I wanted to, how long do you think it would take to hack into the web site?
P.S. "They" hacked into my/our DoD clearance web site and got security info on 200k employees.
Yes, REALLY!!!!!!
Rich I have no problem believing that someone hacked into a probable government web site. Our present administration has done little to protect the government web sites. But that isn't what we are talking about here. We are talking about photographers taking photographs of police officers and their families. Who cares what these officers and their families look like. LEO families are all around us. They don't live a secret ninja existence. Just look around and you will see police cars all over the country, some at work, some home for lunch etc. What is the big deal. I know of no LEO who is petrified for his/her or the family's lives. Get a grip.
Dennis
Now, for those of you who are professional level photographers and know a police officer, someone in fire and rescue, or in the military.....offer to take their family photos and to do the necessary p/p. You shouldn't have to be out any cash, but any prints should be provided at cost. Hopefully this is something positive that we can take from this discussion.
Okay, let me clear up my viewpoint on this matter, since you seem to think I have something against a cops family having their picture taken, I do not have anything against that! What I am against is the media making the deaths of a few cops a coast to coast national event and not even mention those who have fallen on the battle field on a daily basis. It seems to me that they are now the "forgotten". I will not forget them!
Carl D wrote:
Okay, let me clear up my viewpoint on this matter, since you seem to think I have something against a cops family having their picture taken, I do not have anything against that! What I am against is the media making the deaths of a few cops a coast to coast national event and not even mention those who have fallen on the battle field on a daily basis. It seems to me that they are now the "forgotten". I will not forget them!
Point taken. Five cops at one time, however, was a big deal to us in Dallas. There was only one other year, in the 80's, when five police officers were killed throughout the whole year....and that was a really bad year.
No, veterans who are lost are not forgotten. Fifty years later we still remember those we grew up with who are now gone and wonder what their lives would have been like. We are thankful in my family. Four men went to war in WWII and four men returned. One flew 33 missions as a radioman in B-17's and had to ditch three times. Another fought in the Philippines. Not all were so lucky, however, and Memorial Day in the fifties was a special day, as it continues to be. There were big parades in my downtown in the fifties. Veterans marched. My friends' grandfather from WWI rode in a car. Don't think they are forgotten just because the shock of the death of five police officers is traumatic to an entire city, and perhaps nation.
BTW...One of my cousin's granddaughter is on the honor guard at the Tomb of the Unknowns. 24/7/365 Wind, rain, snow, sleet, heat and cold, they are honored.
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