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Jun 27, 2016 10:45:07   #
mancemd
 
Have you thought about a new wife?

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Jun 27, 2016 10:48:35   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
If you have a back porch, leave the gear in the bag (with the desiccant bags) and put it on the porch first thing. I do this before I have my morning coffee - when I'm ready, it's ready.

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Jun 27, 2016 11:06:00   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Wrap your camera gear in terrycloth and wait for about an hour. If you are traveling and it is raining, take large size zip locks. Water and condensation are enemies of any digital camera.

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Jun 27, 2016 11:20:01   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
UXOEOD wrote:
Okay, this is either an intelligent concern on my part


Not sutpid at all. I found these:

http://www.brnostore.com/dri-cap/ - Brno Dri Cap

and somewhere on the Internets there is a lens cap with desiccant packages built in, but I could not find it.

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Jun 27, 2016 11:31:09   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
UXOEOD wrote:

But damn, I am so very satisfied with my new gear.....and the new wife!

Thanks for the deep consideration and thoughts.


You have to keep your gear warm!
Just slip all your gear into your trousers!!
I'm just assuming your trousers aren't already full, or you would have turned down the AC!!!
In these situations you must think outside the box!!!!!!
Always glad to help!! 💣 💣 💣
SS

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Jun 27, 2016 11:57:41   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
UXOEOD wrote:
Okay, this is either an intelligent concern on my part, or that one question that proves there are in fact "STUPID QUESTIONS".

My loving spouse is keeping the house a bit more air conditioned than I feel is necessary, file that under keeping wife happy and such is life. This situation is NOT under my ability to change. However, when I trek out with the camera and lenses I cannot take photos for several minutes until the warm to ambient temperature, and stop collecting condensation from the hot and humid air. Besides patience, is there a solution?

I don't want to leave them in the auto, as over-night auto breakins are all too popular here in Lexington Ky. I am thinking of storing Amy camera body and lenses in the house in zip lock bags, dry air, to limit condensation problem as I take my stuff out. Surely, I am not the first to notice this "problem".

Please guide me, or congratulate me for finding THE PROOF THAT THERE ARE STUPID QUESTIONS!
Okay, this is either an intelligent concern on my ... (show quote)


Water-tight cases are indeed the answer, there are LOTS of choices out there from Nanuk, Tundra, Vanguard, and yes, even Pelican. Prices vary widely and some models (all models from Nanuk) offer adjustable dividers which are MUCH preferred over the pluck and pick foam interiors.

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Jun 27, 2016 12:52:53   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Water-tight cases are indeed the answer, there are LOTS of choices out there from Nanuk, Tundra, Vanguard, and yes, even Pelican. Prices vary widely and some models (all models from Nanuk) offer adjustable dividers which are MUCH preferred over the pluck and pick foam interiors.

A water tight case is nearly worthless for this particular purpose. It will keep the camera cool inside the case, and when it is taken out of the case the warm moist air condenses water onto the camera just exactly the same as if it had been just then removed from the cool house.

Using a desiccant is equally of no value. Inside a case there is no risk of condensation anyway! The moisture is in the warm outside air, and you aren't going to have enough desiccant to dry out the whole outside.

What is needed is a safe way to quickly warm the camera from the cool inside temperature until it is at the same temperature as the moist outside air. The idea of the ZipLoc bag is correct, but that's not the best bag to use. Instead, while inside the house, place the camera and other gear into a kitchen sized plastic trash bag, and squeeze all the air out. It isn't really necessary to make any effort at specially sealing the top as a single twist will do just fine. There is no point to putting a desiccant in the bag as there is no significant moisture in the bag.

Take the bagged camera outside outside. Set it in a particularly warm place with good air circulation to heat it up fast. If there is no air inside the bag it will warm up faster. ZipLoc bags are okay, but it's a lot harder to get all the air out of the bag and as a result it takes longer to warm the camera up. When the camera is at air temperature, remove it from the bag ready to go!

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Jun 27, 2016 13:03:44   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
Put the gear in a insulated cooler without adding chill pcaks, close up at outdoor temp and humidity. Store wherever you want, unopened.

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Jun 27, 2016 13:14:50   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
romanticf16 wrote:
Put the gear in a insulated cooler without adding chill pcaks, close up at outdoor temp and humidity. Store wherever you want, unopened.

Wonderful if the gear only needs to be inside for a short time. But after more than perhaps 5 or 6 hours (and you have no access to it during that time) there is the problem that it has cooled enough to be a problem... and inside the cooler it will take that long to warm up again. Set the cooler inside for 8 hours means setting it outside for 8 hours before opening to get at the camera!

It just doesn't solve the problem unless it is left outside all the time. A cardboard box would work just as well...

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Jun 27, 2016 13:19:05   #
tomc601 Loc: Gilbert, AZ
 
Don't know if you have a basement but they're rarely ACd.

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Jun 27, 2016 13:29:09   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
CASpic wrote:
A few minutes before you go out use a hair dryer to warm your camera and lenses. Do NOT hold the hair dryer too close to your equipment. You do not want to make the camera and lenses hot. You just want to make the camera warm. Practice one or two times and you will have it. Lynn Sumerson


I was thinking about microwaving.


















Yes, that was a joke.

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Jun 27, 2016 13:30:13   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Apaflo wrote:
A water tight case is nearly worthless for this particular purpose. It will keep the camera cool inside the case, and when it is taken out of the case the warm moist air condenses water onto the camera just exactly the same as if it had been just then removed from the cool house.

Using a desiccant is equally of no value. Inside a case there is no risk of condensation anyway! The moisture is in the warm outside air, and you aren't going to have enough desiccant to dry out the whole outside.

What is needed is a safe way to quickly warm the camera from the cool inside temperature until it is at the same temperature as the moist outside air. The idea of the ZipLoc bag is correct, but that's not the best bag to use. Instead, while inside the house, place the camera and other gear into a kitchen sized plastic trash bag, and squeeze all the air out. It isn't really necessary to make any effort at specially sealing the top as a single twist will do just fine. There is no point to putting a desiccant in the bag as there is no significant moisture in the bag.

Take the bagged camera outside outside. Set it in a particularly warm place with good air circulation to heat it up fast. If there is no air inside the bag it will warm up faster. ZipLoc bags are okay, but it's a lot harder to get all the air out of the bag and as a result it takes longer to warm the camera up. When the camera is at air temperature, remove it from the bag ready to go!
A water tight case is nearly worthless for this pa... (show quote)


Gee, I have done exactly this for over 30 years and it works perfectly, even in Samoa, Fiji, Tahiti and Florida. But you are always entitled to your personal opinion.

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Jun 27, 2016 14:30:02   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
UXOEOD wrote:
Okay, this is either an intelligent concern on my part, or that one question that proves there are in fact "STUPID QUESTIONS".

My loving spouse is keeping the house a bit more air conditioned than I feel is necessary, file that under keeping wife happy and such is life. This situation is NOT under my ability to change. However, when I trek out with the camera and lenses I cannot take photos for several minutes until the warm to ambient temperature, and stop collecting condensation from the hot and humid air. Besides patience, is there a solution?

I don't want to leave them in the auto, as over-night auto breakins are all too popular here in Lexington Ky. I am thinking of storing Amy camera body and lenses in the house in zip lock bags, dry air, to limit condensation problem as I take my stuff out. Surely, I am not the first to notice this "problem".

Please guide me, or congratulate me for finding THE PROOF THAT THERE ARE STUPID QUESTIONS!
Okay, this is either an intelligent concern on my ... (show quote)


It's all about the temperature inside your house and the humidity outside. If your gear has been cooled to a temperature lower then the dewpoint of the outside air then condensation will form on your gear when you take it outside. The only way you can avoid that is to prevent the outside air from coming in contact with your gear until the gear has warmed up enough to be warmer then the dewpoint. That is often only a few degrees. Storing your gear in the warmest part of your house could do the trick. Do you have a secure area in your garage? Zip lock bags or wrapping it in a towel can also help keep the outside air away. The towel though will just slow the warm up. I would prefer to store it in a warm spot. That way both the exterior and interior of your camera and lens will be warm. Allowing the camera to warm up in a bag will work if you allow enough time for it to warm thoroughly. If the internals are not warm enough then just the pumping action of many zooms can introduce moisture, and the resulting condensation to the interior of your camera.

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Jun 27, 2016 15:34:10   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Gee, I have done exactly this for over 30 years and it works perfectly, even in Samoa, Fiji, Tahiti and Florida. But you are always entitled to your personal opinion.

Such cases are great for protecting equipment. Make no mistake, they don't prevent condensation.

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Jun 27, 2016 15:54:28   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
lfinger and apaflo are correct.
store your camera in whatever you like but bring it up to outside temperature before exposing it to outside air/humidity...

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