jerryc41 wrote:
"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.
Especially photographers who feel like they can set up their intrusive tripods anywhere they please, with no regard to other people. The worst may be some of the wedding photographers with their lighting equipment.
ptcanon3ti wrote:
...humans... are the most militantly self centered creatures to walk the face of this earth since time began.
And humans are now looking for other worlds to contaminate. Even Stephen Hawking thinks this is a bad idea.
LiamRowan wrote:
He was willing to scare and scatter thousands of cranes in order to get the shot.
But he wasn't getting a very good shot - not very natural. How about the small drones that harass wildlife?
CLF
Loc: Raleigh, NC
jerryc41 wrote:
"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.
Jerry, I guess I am lucky in that I have not experienced these "Pigeons" while I am out enjoying a site. I am retired and avoid weekends and maybe that is the reason I have not seen it. With that said I do understand the problem as it occurs in activities not related to photography. I love to fish as an outdoor way to relax. I would find empty bait containers, etc and now it is posted. I also like to hunt and when younger would go 2 to 3 miles of the roads to attempt to get away. When I get there you can find trash, cigarette filters etc. They can carry it in full of water but not carry the empty out. A whole lot of the areas are now off limits to all, not just the slobs. The point is we humans can and have ruined the available spaces we desire do to our lack of respect.
Greg
I think that the number of ill mannered, discourteous, self involved people is on the rise. It has nothing to do with photography in particular.
If the behavior of children that I see in public places like zoos, museums and shopping malls is any indication......it's going to get much worse.
CLF wrote:
Jerry, I guess I am lucky in that I have not experienced these "Pigeons" while I am out enjoying a site. I am retired and avoid weekends and maybe that is the reason I have not seen it. With that said I do understand the problem as it occurs in activities not related to photography. I love to fish as an outdoor way to relax. I would find empty bait containers, etc and now it is posted. I also like to hunt and when younger would go 2 to 3 miles of the roads to attempt to get away. When I get there you can find trash, cigarette filters etc. They can carry it in full of water but not carry the empty out. A whole lot of the areas are now off limits to all, not just the slobs. The point is we humans can and have ruined the available spaces we desire do to our lack of respect.
Greg
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Sad but true. As I was heading to my car in a large parking lot the other day, I saw a mess on the ground. I guess someone decided to clean all the garbage out of their car, and the parking lot seemed a good place to do it. There were banana peals, fast food containers, lots of paper, candy wrappers, and some fabric. Years ago, when people smoked in cars, and they all had ash trays, I would see piles of ashes where people had dumped them. That wasn't so bad.
There's a ridiculous old television shot at a major league baseball game of a photographer with his speed graphic running from the the foul area on the third base side to the foul area on the first base side - - directly between the pitcher and catcher. Major churches like St. Patricks in NY have you sign documents, complete with diagrams, so the photographer will not act like an idiot and disrupt the wedding ceremony. Owning the latest equipment and being able to use it with some skill doesn't come with instructions on common courtesy.
sb
Loc: Florida's East Coast
Like a pigeon? I think not! I have never besmirched a statue!
sb
Loc: Florida's East Coast
LiamRowan wrote:
Boy, is this ever true.
A much worse case scenario is the second photo. I was in a location where thousands of sandhill cranes were gathering for their fall migration. This Ax$#%le flies in on a very loud motorized glider at low altitude. He was deliberately spooking the cranes, which were jumping out of the fields en masse and flying off. I shot him as he went by, but it was not until I got home and looked onscreen that I saw the camera. He was willing to scare and scatter thousands of cranes in order to get the shot.
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There must be laws against harassing wildlife - especially if this was a wildlife refuge. He should be reported to the Fish and Game Service of your state.
what I see is people pushing in front with cell phones and IPad to get a photo ignoring other people trying to photograph the scene/event/animal and spoiling it
CaptainC wrote:
I don't think so, I am guessing you have never witnessed this behavior. It is because many (certainly not all) [of mostly] new photographers feel they can do whatever they want. They are discourteous, thoughtless, and rude. I have seen it and I have heard the complaints of facility staff. A professional will be courteous and respectful of others and the property of others regardless of money.
There is a historical site here in south Denver that is currently closed for some repairs and landscape work. The sign has to read: "Closed to the public and photographers." Now why on Earth would "photographers" have to be specifically noted? Because too many of them think they have rights beyond the public. Shameful, really.
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Your guess would be wrong. It's always about the money. To believe otherwise is naive.
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
jerryc41 wrote:
"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.
Regardless of what any one thinks about photographers, and thinks of them as pigeons, think about this. Never has a photographer crapped on my windshield.
boberic wrote:
Regardless of what any one thinks about photographers, and thinks of them as pigeons, think about this. Never has a photographer crapped on my windshield.
And it's a good thing. Not sure your typical wiper/spray would remove heavy doody.
I had occasion to take photos for the company I worked for. Unpaid, on the company's property. It was open to the public. I picked out a spot where I could take pictures w / o interfering. About half way thru, the representative for the local paper showed up. She proceeded to walk in front of the assembled crowd, taking pictures. i really want to tell her to sit her fat A@@ down. Fortunately, someone else did. Crowd gave him a round of applause. Lesson learned, I make sure that I have permission to take pictures.
CAS1951 wrote:
I know of a couple of pro photographers who will not disclose a location of their fine art photographs, to prevent damage to the area and preserve the ecosystem.
absolutely. there are a number of places i photograph for which i have permission, and never reveal where my work was taken. the last thing i need to see is garbage, plastic wrappers, chips bags and graffiti in otherwise pristine places.
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