Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons: "Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are...

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.

CAS1951 Loc: San Diego

jerryc41 wrote:

"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.

CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver

The original article is by Lynn Cartia on her Missy MWAC blog and then re-posted on www.diyphotography

If I post the link to the very well-written original post, the admin will probably just move this, so just go to the URL above and look for the article posted on May 15.

CAS1951 Loc: San Diego

CaptainC wrote:

The original article is by Lynn Cartia on her Missy MWAC blog and then re-posted on www.diyphotography

If I post the link to the very well-written original post, the admin will probably just move this, so just go to the URL above and look for the article posted on May 15.

I know of a couple of pro photographers who will not disclose a location of their fine art photographs, to prevent damage to the area and preserve the ecosystem.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

CaptainC wrote:

...re-posted on www.diyphotography

If I post the link to the very well-written original post, the admin will probably just move this...

Exactly why I didn't post the link originally. :D

http://www.diyphotography.net/photographers-become-like-pigeons/

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

jerryc41 wrote:

Exactly why I didn't post the link originally. :D

http://www.diyphotography.net/photographers-become-like-pigeons/

I posted it in Links and Resources on May 11th,
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-388397-1.html

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Mac wrote:

I posted it in Links and Resources on May 11th,
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-388397-1.html

Funny. I often post links there, but I seldom look at that section.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

jerryc41 wrote:

Funny. I often post links there, but I seldom look at that section.

A lot of good stuff there.

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

jerryc41 wrote:

"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.

So true, but nothing new really. It's not hard to find activities and locations with seemly stupid restrictions all because of the actions of even more stupid and uncaring people. Look at the park in Shasta, Calif that was just trashed by a bunch of drunken college kids. I wonder what new restrictions will come of that. All too many people in this world think that they are the only ones that matter.

ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

LFingar wrote:

So true, but nothing new really. It's not hard to find activities and locations with seemly stupid restrictions all because of the actions of even more stupid and uncaring people. Look at the park in Shasta, Calif that was just trashed by a bunch of drunken college kids. I wonder what new restrictions will come of that. All too many people in this world think that they are the only ones that matter.

Outlaw colleges.

Outlaw kids.

Outlaw drinking.

Done.

LiamRowan Loc: Michigan

jerryc41 wrote:

"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.

Boy, is this ever true.

See image immediately below. There is a sandhill crane nest about 15 yds in front of this footbridge. Most of these photographers are very courteous to each other and the animals, but they sure do "flock." Last week I was on the bridge and a non-photographer bird lover stopped to offer some gratuitous hostility to the photographers, noting that they don't leave the animals in peace. In this park one does often encounter scenes where a photographer has cut down all manner of vegetation and plants in the way of the shot.

A much worse case scenario is the second photo. I was in a location where thousands of sandhill cranes were gathering for their fall migration. This Ax$#%le flies in on a very loud motorized glider at low altitude. He was deliberately spooking the cranes, which were jumping out of the fields en masse and flying off. I shot him as he went by, but it was not until I got home and looked onscreen that I saw the camera. He was willing to scare and scatter thousands of cranes in order to get the shot.

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CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver

ptcanon3ti wrote:

Outlaw colleges.

Outlaw kids.

Outlaw drinking.

Done.

Yeah, but the photographer issue is not kids, but adults. Photographers trespassing, trampling flowers, invading private property, and generally acting like they can go wherever they want, whenever they want, to "get the shot."

I LOVE it that some places are requiring proof of liability insurance before permitting photography on their property.

ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

CaptainC wrote:

Yeah, but the photographer issue is not kids, but adults. Photographers trespassing, trampling flowers, invading private property, and generally acting like they can go wherever they want, whenever they want, to "get the shot."

I LOVE it that some places are requiring proof of liability insurance before permitting photography on their property.

I was kidding in my above reply. I am not surprised by any of the behavior you list. If you observe humans as I have been forced to do for the past 30 years, you see that they are the most militantly self centered creatures to walk the face of this earth since time began. They therefore behave as though they are the only one on earth. They are entitled to whatever their whim dujour.

Jim Bob

jerryc41 wrote:

"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.

Nope. It's because of money at all paid events. It's not because folks are discourteous.

CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver

Jim Bob wrote:

Nope. It's because of money at all paid events. It's not because folks are discourteous.

I don't think so, I am guessing you have never witnessed this behavior. It is because many (certainly not all) [of mostly] new photographers feel they can do whatever they want. They are discourteous, thoughtless, and rude. I have seen it and I have heard the complaints of facility staff. A professional will be courteous and respectful of others and the property of others regardless of money.

There is a historical site here in south Denver that is currently closed for some repairs and landscape work. The sign has to read: "Closed to the public and photographers." Now why on Earth would "photographers" have to be specifically noted? Because too many of them think they have rights beyond the public. Shameful, really.