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Jun 1, 2016 12:42:48   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
Howard5252 wrote:
You don't have to use the catalog feature of LR. After I finish editing, I delete all of the files (from LR) I had been working on. Each time I use LR I simply browse to where my photos are and import those that I want to edit. The only thing I give up with this method is there will be no HISTORY if I re-edit a photo. I can live with that. If your files are well organized there is no problem locating any particular image.


You can retain history if you choose the write to xmp option. Only Lightroom and Photshop will be able to use the xmp data ( that I am aware of) but all your edits are retained in the sidecar xmp file but you need to turn that featire on in preferences. When you remove the files from LR and reimport the history will be there, that is assuming you dodn't edit in something other than LR or PS.

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Jun 1, 2016 13:02:11   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
par4fore wrote:
Rant, a little, based on past experience. I'm a Photoshop user but gave Lightroom a try (a few times). I used Adobe videos, bought CD'S and went to seminars by Tim Gray, I just could not deal with it. It was just not for me, the whole import, keywords, star ratings and the actual size and layout of the interface. But more than that, just how often do you see others post with issues, especially related to the library module.

Like I said also; "If you shoot for a living, do weddings, have clients, then for you, it is probably a must and well worth using."
I'll add to that, if you haven't had problems and your are already establish with it, I'm sure you are happy and it is a great program.
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Almost all people who post with "issues" at some point show their lack of understanding or misuse of the program in their post.It is not something to just jump into without study and a good guide book or tutorials.

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Jun 1, 2016 13:03:35   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Howard5252 wrote:
You don't have to use the catalog feature of LR. After I finish editing, I delete all of the files (from LR) I had been working on. Each time I use LR I simply browse to where my photos are and import those that I want to edit. The only thing I give up with this method is there will be no HISTORY if I re-edit a photo. I can live with that. If your files are well organized there is no problem locating any particular image.


To each their own. You can use Lightroom anyway you wish if it meets your workflow approach, but I have to say that's the oddest use of Lightroom I've heard of so far.

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Jun 1, 2016 15:02:14   #
Sinewsworn Loc: Port Orchard, WA
 

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Jun 1, 2016 15:21:26   #
JohnTxNC
 
Bill_de wrote:
Really ??? Is it possible you didn't read before you wrote?

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LoL Bill, you need to start typing in larger and bolder print text, if you want me to catch everything you type . . . . LoL

Hoping you & all those in this thread had a great Memorial Day weekend .... Mine is just ending and it's bsck to work! (Lightroom awaits!)

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Jun 2, 2016 10:23:26   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
romanticf16 wrote:
Almost all people who post with "issues" at some point show their lack of understanding or misuse of the program in their post.It is not something to just jump into without study and a good guide book or tutorials.


It's almost a shame that software isn't made that is plug and play. If everyone understood there would be no "issues". There has sprung a whole new business from software and cameras that tells you what the makers should have.

As for LR I bought a book, CD and spent numerous hours on You Tube. I have been using PS for years and love it but was still having a problem with my catalog. I had thought about uninstalling LR but after reading a post here yesterday I deleted the catalog. I had enough knowledge and experience after about 3 weeks to start over. Second time around was a charm! Now everything is working as it should, as if someone turned on the light. I'll have to spend some time making notations and flagging photos, not all, but the ones that will make navigating easier.

Thanks to all that contributed to this post! The answers usually there and sometimes you have to shift through a lot of hay to find the needle .

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Jun 3, 2016 07:57:26   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Gene51 wrote:
If you opt to have LR write changes to a sidecar (.xmp) file, then deleting catalogs will not affect the files in your picture folder. But you will lose any organizational constructs like collections, virtual copies, etc I think.

You can import first, then organize, or organize after importing. I do either pretty regularly. I just covered the Bethpage Credit Union Memorial Day Airshow at Jones Beach in NY, and I came back with 1300 images from two camera bodies. I used On1 to view, cull and rate, then move the images to their destination in my computer. Then I opened LR and told them where they were by going to the Library module and executing Import-Add. I could have clicked on the + at the top of the library folder and added it there as well. Or I could have right clicked on my 2016 folder, or my May folder and merely do a synchronize folder.

In addition to placing the image in it's dated folder using my own folder structure which is organized by year and month, I tagged all the incoming images as they were added to the catalog with the keywords "Jones Beach" Airshow, "Bethpage Credit Union" 2016, and I segregated them into groups based on what they were of - like Canadian Snowbird Demo Team, USAF-F35, Blue Angels, Breitling, Geico Skywriters, etc. Finally, I rename all the images by adding 2016 Jones Beach Airshow to the number assigned by the camera. The whole process, including creating proof-quality images for the keepers, was about 3 hours.

I do not move any files into any categories on my hard drive. LR can quickly create named collections that duplicate the moving of files, but without actually moving them.

Forget Rule #1 - a better rule is that if you decide to move imported images, don't forget to sync the source and destination folders when you open Lightroom.

LR is really good at ending the chaos, as long as you don't have chaos to begin with. You need to be a little bit organized, and LR will help enhance and fine-tune your organization.

People who are disorganized by nature, will only suffer frustration with LR - they simply won't get it.
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Jun 3, 2016 11:33:46   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Paul Buckhiester wrote:
I'm really surprised that many think LR difficult.


It has a steep learning curve, but once you get it, the application is ideal for Photographers.

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Jun 4, 2016 13:05:11   #
A.I.R. Loc: Carmel IN
 
Thank you for the information. I appreciate the time and thought for the information you provided. Also given with without all the "anger" that leaped when asking this question in the beginning. Looks like I have a job ahead of me and just need to proceed forward and take my time and declutter my catalog and enjoy it. Thank you again.

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Jun 5, 2016 21:24:58   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
RRS wrote:
It's almost a shame that software isn't made that is plug and play. If everyone understood there would be no "issues". There has sprung a whole new business from software and cameras that tells you what the makers should have.

As for LR I bought a book, CD and spent numerous hours on You Tube. I have been using PS for years and love it but was still having a problem with my catalog. I had thought about uninstalling LR but after reading a post here yesterday I deleted the catalog. I had enough knowledge and experience after about 3 weeks to start over. Second time around was a charm! Now everything is working as it should, as if someone turned on the light. I'll have to spend some time making notations and flagging photos, not all, but the ones that will make navigating easier.

Thanks to all that contributed to this post! The answers usually there and sometimes you have to shift through a lot of hay to find the needle .
It's almost a shame that software isn't made that ... (show quote)


But eventually you find the needle, and discover it was more than worth the effort. Congratulations on your perseverance - and now you get to enjoy your camera(s) again.

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Jun 5, 2016 23:46:49   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
Gene51 wrote:
But eventually you find the needle, and discover it was more than worth the effort. Congratulations on your perseverance - and now you get to enjoy your camera(s) again.


And the long lenses too. I find that I'm redoing some older shots with much better results. Going from 4 GB of RAM to 16 GB also helped speed thing up too. It's going to take some time to add notes to make it easier to find things but I've got the time. I've been called a persistent B*$@*^d but sometimes it does pay off. Thanks for all your good info!

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