Southern CA photo permits; you now need TWO permits to take snapshots on the beach!
rpavich wrote:
Holy crap. No wonder I'll never live in Kalifornia again. What a place...they are just bound and determined to get everyone to move out along with all businesses.
Miss your photos of Pancho, Gracie and Violet. How are they? Sadly, our Raphael passed March 18, 2016 at the age of 15 yrs.
Absolutely true, one more thing for the MORONS who voted Jerry Brown in for a 3rd. Time deserve what ever they get and that's why I left that state, the NUT JOBS are running the asylum. And now a large group have moved here(Texas) from California in the Austin TX. area and starting the same crackpot idea's. The country or USA has to put a end to this Progressism none sense.
Bill_de wrote:
According to what I just read, these are permits for filming, aimed at the entertainment industry. Although not to say that some are not over stepping, it does not appear to be aimed at individuals taking snap shots. I think (just my opinion) that requiring a permit to take pictures in areas open to the public would violate Supreme Court rulings.
I have long thought that California acts as if it is not part of the US, and have suggested we give it back to Mexico ... before it falls into the Pacific.
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wj cody wrote:
the reason for this is simple, human beings ruing everything, go where they should not and kill whatever gets in their way.
i'm pleased, as an ex-Californian, that these steps are being taken. the coastline is irreplaceable, and the less people on it, the better.
Go back to the Left Coast, freak.
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
The greed of California bureaucrats is world famous. And for good reason. Arrogance and greed like this has driven away much of the film industry, as well as forced countless businesses to flee CA:
Found this interesting since I'm trying to get a legal permit in Ventura County.
For beach shoots, if you are on DRY SAND you need a permit from the county or local authority. However, if you shoot on WET SAND or on the water, you need a permit from the Coastal Authority. They show the sundry beach jurisdiction "Lines in the sand" in the aerial photo of a beach in the PDF here:
http://vcrma.org/planning/pdf/permits/f … _Areas.pdf
Plus, they are going after students now for a minimum $50 fee too, but waiving the additional $155 one-day permit if they have a letter from the school.
http://www.cityofventura.net/files/file … llable.pdf
Seems each county and city are coming up with new rules fast, and many seem to be new from 2015 and building. A cash cow I guess.
Fwiw, I had to go shoot photos of where I can park at along the county road and then go to the local CHP office that has jurisdiction over that road to get approval (The officer attaches their business card to the photo of where I parked my car in a pull-off.) and avoid some "Road Encroachment Permit" thing for the Forest Service permit where I submit the photo to them. The officer did tell me that there was a likelihood of them assigning a ranger to me for the duration of the shoot "To make sure I don't step on an endangered snail or something." He's seen it before, and even on private land like El Tejon Ranch which is pretty much the northern portion of I-5 over the Grapevine.
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It's aimed at commercial ventures.
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/photo-permits/
jimneotech wrote:
If you’re taking personal photos or are a student (or group of students) and don’t believe your
activities are considered “commercial”, but you’re using commercial equipment, you’re likely to
be stopped by Park rangers...
We've had postings like this from members who were shooting in parks with DSLRs. People around them were using compact and cell phone cameras, but the authorities questioned them about their "commercial photography."
Bill_de wrote:
According to what I just read, these are permits for filming, aimed at the entertainment industry. Although not to say that some are not over stepping, it does not appear to be aimed at individuals taking snap shots. I think (just my opinion) that requiring a permit to take pictures in areas open to the public would violate Supreme Court rulings.
I have long thought that California acts as if it is not part of the US, and have suggested we give it back to Mexico ... before it falls into the Pacific.
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I actually checked this out as well, and I have to agree with you. My initial "knee jerk" reaction was one of anger, then started to think the permits are aimed at commercial ventures (filming, advertising companies, et al), and not the general public. Otherwise, the city would have to spend considerable resources on patrolling for offenders--as everyother person would be caught photographing. Also, Los Angeles has UCLA and USC film schools, which I suspect are the students being targeted.
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
The greed of California bureaucrats is world famous. And for good reason. Arrogance and greed like this has driven away much of the film industry, as well as forced countless businesses to flee CA:
Found this interesting since I'm trying to get a legal permit in Ventura County.
For beach shoots, if you are on DRY SAND you need a permit from the county or local authority. However, if you shoot on WET SAND or on the water, you need a permit from the Coastal Authority. They show the sundry beach jurisdiction "Lines in the sand" in the aerial photo of a beach in the PDF here:
http://vcrma.org/planning/pdf/permits/f … _Areas.pdf
Plus, they are going after students now for a minimum $50 fee too, but waiving the additional $155 one-day permit if they have a letter from the school.
http://www.cityofventura.net/files/file … llable.pdf
Seems each county and city are coming up with new rules fast, and many seem to be new from 2015 and building. A cash cow I guess.
Fwiw, I had to go shoot photos of where I can park at along the county road and then go to the local CHP office that has jurisdiction over that road to get approval (The officer attaches their business card to the photo of where I parked my car in a pull-off.) and avoid some "Road Encroachment Permit" thing for the Forest Service permit where I submit the photo to them. The officer did tell me that there was a likelihood of them assigning a ranger to me for the duration of the shoot "To make sure I don't step on an endangered snail or something." He's seen it before, and even on private land like El Tejon Ranch which is pretty much the northern portion of I-5 over the Grapevine.
This is amazing...
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I should think the permits would apply only to professional photo shoots, which can often interfere with the public's right of access. Perhaps you could change your moniker to "Los Angeles Snapshooter" and avoid all the hassle.
Bill_de wrote:
According to what I just read, these are permits for filming, aimed at the entertainment industry. Although not to say that some are not over stepping, it does not appear to be aimed at individuals taking snap shots. I think (just my opinion) that requiring a permit to take pictures in areas open to the public would violate Supreme Court rulings.
I have long thought that California acts as if it is not part of the US, and have suggested we give it back to Mexico ... before it falls into the Pacific.
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Yes, there rules might transcend some SCOTUS rulings but who has the deep pockets for the court fight? If it becomes widespread news on the social media, might CA lose some of its tourist allure.
Is there any truth to the rumour that because oxygen is fuel for CA agriculture, etc that there is a move on imposing a breathing permit and fee.
MjTahoe
Loc: Napa Valley / Lake Tahoe / California Sierra
Get your facts straight please... This permit fee applies to Commercial, Entertainment, Promotional, etc. type of photography, cinematography & video. This has been the case for many moons.
Does not apply to everyday amateur photographers.
...P.S.... for all the negative CA disses.... Eat your hearts out and do us a favor and stay the hell away, don't need your trash on our beach's... We like CA and really don't care to share with negative "want'a-be's"
Not surprisingly, there have been a lot of interesting comments on this thread. I believe the comments that no permit is required for personal use are correct.
So that leads to the obvious question: what kind of photography are you planning, LAS? Is it commercial in some way?
Also, is there something peculiar to Ventura County in this issue.
Your discussion about getting CHP approval for a parking spot is an attention-getter unless there is something restricted about access to the beach area you use.
Please give us some more context.
Also: can't get your first link to work. I think the new software truncated the link.
If half of California folks left, the place would STILL be packed!
It is surprising just how easily it is to foment anger and hysteria by spreading misinformation to ignorant people. Despite the title of this absurd post one does NOT need a permit to take snapshots on California beaches so stop your idiotic lie. I have taken photographs on Californian beaches from Eureka to Imperial Beach and almost everywhere in between and have NEVER been approached by anyone for a permit. I have had National Park and local LE folks advise me to help to find the best location on several CA beaches (Point Reyes National Seashore, Golden Gate National Recreation Area, among others).
But like just about everywhere else in the country commercial companies need to check the local permit requirements to conduct commercial filming activities. These activities can cause disruption to traffic, parking, thoroughfare and public access issues, damage to public property and liability. The permit issues in CA are really no more onerous than any other location and just about every major city in CA has a film and entertainment liaison to help facilitate the permitting because so much of it is done in our state.
And by denigrating the California economy with such information is laughable. California is outpacing the growth in the US economy as a whole and is predicted to do so for the next five years. New startups are springing up all over California in biotech, information technology, automotive and media and entertainment. Silicon Valley is the research and development engine of the world in technology and is expanding at an unprecedented rate. The California agriculture output is over $54 Billion per year and rose over 5% last year. Business in the Napa and Sonoma wine industries are booming. When Jerry Brown was elected for his third term in 2011 he bested his republican opponent by over 14 points. The budget deficit at the time (leftover from the prior republican administration) was $26 Billion: today we have an $8 Billion surplus. When Jerry Brown re-took office in 2011 the unemployment rate was over 12% and today it is at 6% and dropping.
I know it is tempting to just put falsehood and outright lies out on the internet because you will find likeminded, uniformed people to share in your delusion. Just expect to be checked on it.
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