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May 6, 2012 01:30:52   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
[quote=tschmath]
gmcase wrote:
butch47 wrote:

I'm not a Fox News fan at all but can you substantiate this statement about Fox's accuracy? Is it a source besides a Fox competitor? Who has "shown this to be true and how?


If you don't want to watch MSNBC, which does an amazing job of debunking the crap on Fox, watch The Daily Show or The Colbert Report. Both are comedy shows, but since they aren't competing with Fox, their skewering of Fox on a regular basis is spot on.


OK, but how about answering my question which questioned your statement? Who has "shown" (indicating substance of some kind) that Fox is the most inaccurate? Did you just make it up because you don't like them or what?

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May 6, 2012 01:33:16   #
jolly1
 
ward5311 wrote:
Jackinthebox wrote:
MWAC wrote:
jolly1 wrote:
Herr Adolph Obama.


wow.. I can't believe how people disrespect the President of the United States, it's hard for a citizen of another county to respect the citizens of the United States when they blatantly refer to their leader as Adolph Obama, a direct play on words refering to Adolph Hitler.

How can you seriously put your leader in the same catergory as a man you killed millions of people because they didnt' agree with his belief system? REALLY??? How disrespectful not only to the President of the United States (which I thought you were taught to show respect too??), but it's also very disrespectful to every citizen of the US and every survivor of the Holocaust.

Sometimes I am just simply amazed how some people will just throw around names, without thinking what they truly mean. I'm also just as amazed to see how people show such lack of respect to an office I was told should be held in the highest regards. I know I wouldn't want that job and I respect any person that would think of holding that position, I don't have to agree with their politics but I will respect them for their desire to run and hold that position.

Here's a little world secret... if you want other world leaders and it's citizens to show respect to your President, as a country you must first show him some respect. When as a nation you belittle that indivual, you risk dimensioning the respect of your leader by the rest of the world.
quote=jolly1 Herr Adolph Obama. /quote br br wo... (show quote)


MWAC, stick to the camera. Respect is earned. oBummer was virtually unknown when the country showed him more respect than anyone could ever expect, by elected him president. He bungled it and lost the respect of many and many will vote him out of office when the time comes. Now, you as a non-citizen, with all respect, show some respect, shut up, and stick to photography.
Respectfully....a voting citizen of the USA.
quote=MWAC quote=jolly1 Herr Adolph Obama. /quot... (show quote)


OMG..I wouldn't want to be you when MWAC reads this..Just sayin....
quote=Jackinthebox quote=MWAC quote=jolly1 Herr... (show quote)



Oh, she does carry on though, doesn't she. But then few here pay any attention to her rantings, and the few of us that do simply push her buttons to dispell the boredom that overtakes this site at times. You gotta admit that she can rattle the windows when she gets it in gear. Actually she would do very well on the stage at Comic Central.

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May 6, 2012 05:31:18   #
tkhphotography Loc: Gresham, Or, not Seattle
 
[quote=Jackinthebox][quote=MWAC][quote=jolly1.[/quote]

come on, suck it up, be respectful to others, especially women..

"shut up" isn't respectful at all...........

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May 6, 2012 06:34:04   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
picturedude wrote:
Jackinthebox wrote:
MWAC wrote:
jolly1 wrote:
Herr Adolph Obama.


wow.. I can't believe how people disrespect the President of the United States, it's hard for a citizen of another county to respect the citizens of the United States when they blatantly refer to their leader as Adolph Obama, a direct play on words refering to Adolph Hitler.

How can you seriously put your leader in the same catergory as a man you killed millions of people because they didnt' agree with his belief system? REALLY??? How disrespectful not only to the President of the United States (which I thought you were taught to show respect too??), but it's also very disrespectful to every citizen of the US and every survivor of the Holocaust.

Sometimes I am just simply amazed how some people will just throw around names, without thinking what they truly mean. I'm also just as amazed to see how people show such lack of respect to an office I was told should be held in the highest regards. I know I wouldn't want that job and I respect any person that would think of holding that position, I don't have to agree with their politics but I will respect them for their desire to run and hold that position.

Here's a little world secret... if you want other world leaders and it's citizens to show respect to your President, as a country you must first show him some respect. When as a nation you belittle that indivual, you risk dimensioning the respect of your leader by the rest of the world.
quote=jolly1 Herr Adolph Obama. /quote br br wo... (show quote)


MWAC, stick to the camera. Respect is earned. oBummer was virtually unknown when the country showed him more respect than anyone could ever expect, by elected him president. He bungled it and lost the respect of many and many will vote him out of office when the time comes. Now, you as a non-citizen, with all respect, show some respect, shut up, and stick to photography.
Respectfully....a voting citizen of the USA.
quote=MWAC quote=jolly1 Herr Adolph Obama. /quot... (show quote)


Uh-oh!!!! It's gonna hit the fan now.
quote=Jackinthebox quote=MWAC quote=jolly1 Herr... (show quote)


Uh oh ........ I'm a squealer ...... Oh MWAC ........ Oh MWAC .....

somebodies in trouble now ...... tis,tis,tis,

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May 6, 2012 08:20:50   #
traveler90712 Loc: Lake Worth, Fl.
 
[quote=gmcase]
tschmath wrote:
gmcase wrote:
butch47 wrote:

I'm not a Fox News fan at all but can you substantiate this statement about Fox's accuracy? Is it a source besides a Fox competitor? Who has "shown this to be true and how?


If you don't want to watch MSNBC, which does an amazing job of debunking the crap on Fox, watch The Daily Show or The Colbert Report. Both are comedy shows, but since they aren't competing with Fox, their skewering of Fox on a regular basis is spot on.


OK, but how about answering my question which questioned your statement? Who has "shown" (indicating substance of some kind) that Fox is the most inaccurate? Did you just make it up because you don't like them or what?
quote=gmcase quote=butch47 br I'm not a Fox New... (show quote)


At least FOX News is kept out of Canada.
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/276-74/5123-fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada

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May 6, 2012 22:07:14   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
[quote=traveler90712]
gmcase wrote:
tschmath wrote:
gmcase wrote:
butch47 wrote:

I'm not a Fox News fan at all but can you substantiate this statement about Fox's accuracy? Is it a source besides a Fox competitor? Who has "shown this to be true and how?


If you don't want to watch MSNBC, which does an amazing job of debunking the crap on Fox, watch The Daily Show or The Colbert Report. Both are comedy shows, but since they aren't competing with Fox, their skewering of Fox on a regular basis is spot on.


OK, but how about answering my question which questioned your statement? Who has "shown" (indicating substance of some kind) that Fox is the most inaccurate? Did you just make it up because you don't like them or what?
quote=gmcase quote=butch47 br I'm not a Fox New... (show quote)


At least FOX News is kept out of Canada.
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/276-74/5123-fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada
quote=tschmath quote=gmcase quote=butch47 br I... (show quote)


Great. Good for Canada but I am still waiting for a source that proves his assertion.

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May 7, 2012 04:10:06   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
gmcase wrote:
OK, but how about answering my question which questioned your statement? Who has "shown" (indicating substance of some kind) that Fox is the most inaccurate? Did you just make it up because you don't like them or what?


I'm not sure if this answers your question, but a study by the University of Maryland in 2010 found Fox viewers to be the most misinformed viewers of news programs. Check it out in US News and World Report from Dec 2010.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed

And no, I don't like them. But that's beside the point. What's really ironic if you read the article is that even when Fox attacked the study, they lied about the University.

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May 7, 2012 07:39:14   #
BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida
 
tschmath wrote:
gmcase wrote:
OK, but how about answering my question which questioned your statement? Who has "shown" (indicating substance of some kind) that Fox is the most inaccurate? Did you just make it up because you don't like them or what?


I'm not sure if this answers your question, but a study by the University of Maryland in 2010 found Fox viewers to be the most misinformed viewers of news programs. Check it out in US News and World Report from Dec 2010.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed

And no, I don't like them. But that's beside the point. What's really ironic if you read the article is that even when Fox attacked the study, they lied about the University.
quote=gmcase OK, but how about answering my quest... (show quote)


Between the Canadian Regulators and the US News and World Reports, those are some pretty good "sources".

I guess it's true what they say, "You can bring the mountain to Mohammad, but you can't make him drink".

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May 8, 2012 21:23:29   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
Some self serving loser will get the nod.

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May 8, 2012 21:37:11   #
micro Loc: Texas
 
jolly1 wrote:
MWAC wrote:
jolly1 wrote:
Herr Adolph Obama.


wow.. I can't believe how people disrespect the President of the United States, it's hard for a citizen of another county to respect the citizens of the United States when they blatantly refer to their leader as Adolph Obama, a direct play on words refering to Adolph Hitler.

How can you seriously put your leader in the same catergory as a man you killed millions of people because they didnt' agree with his belief system? REALLY??? How disrespectful not only to the President of the United States (which I thought you were taught to show respect too??), but it's also very disrespectful to every citizen of the US and every survivor of the Holocaust.

Sometimes I am just simply amazed how some people will just throw around names, without thinking what they truly mean. I'm also just as amazed to see how people show such lack of respect to an office I was told should be held in the highest regards. I know I wouldn't want that job and I respect any person that would think of holding that position, I don't have to agree with their politics but I will respect them for their desire to run and hold that position.

Here's a little world secret... if you want other world leaders and it's citizens to show respect to your President, as a country you must first show him some respect. When as a nation you belittle that indivual, you risk dimensioning the respect of your leader by the rest of the world.
quote=jolly1 Herr Adolph Obama. /quote br br wo... (show quote)



Young lady, you have much to learn about history, and the American political scene. You might also look around you and discover just what foreign leadership really thinks of this American president.

How many U.S. Presidents have you ever heard tell the whole world that America is not a Christian Nation? How many U.S. Presidents have apologized to the world for the supposed arrogance of the American people? And how many U.S. Presidents have bowed down to a foreign leader and kissed his hand?

You need to study American history a lot more before you question your elders.
quote=MWAC quote=jolly1 Herr Adolph Obama. /quot... (show quote)


Clearly you don't know what it means to be an an American. The U.S. is not a christian nation, thanks to the good sense of our founding fathers. If President Obama really said that (in spite of what you may have heard on Faux News) it would have been the truth.

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May 8, 2012 21:53:35   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
BW326 wrote:
tschmath wrote:
gmcase wrote:
OK, but how about answering my question which questioned your statement? Who has "shown" (indicating substance of some kind) that Fox is the most inaccurate? Did you just make it up because you don't like them or what?


I'm not sure if this answers your question, but a study by the University of Maryland in 2010 found Fox viewers to be the most misinformed viewers of news programs. Check it out in US News and World Report from Dec 2010.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed

And no, I don't like them. But that's beside the point. What's really ironic if you read the article is that even when Fox attacked the study, they lied about the University.
quote=gmcase OK, but how about answering my quest... (show quote)


Between the Canadian Regulators and the US News and World Reports, those are some pretty good "sources".

I guess it's true what they say, "You can bring the mountain to Mohammad, but you can't make him drink".
quote=tschmath quote=gmcase OK, but how about an... (show quote)


That's fine and dandy but nobody has provided a source to prove the assertion that Fox was "shown" to be the most inaccurate. That is not the same as their viewers being informed well or not. Let's be honest. The poster just made it up because they don't like Fox. I'm not a fan either but making crap up to make a point is lying.

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May 8, 2012 21:53:37   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
micro wrote:
The U.S. is not a christian nation, thanks to the good sense of our founding fathers.


The US was founded on Christian principles, by Christian founding fathers, for Christian people. Whether it is a Christian nation any longer I do not know. 8-)

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/

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May 8, 2012 21:55:56   #
micro Loc: Texas
 
MWAC wrote:
jolly1 wrote:
MWAC wrote:
jolly1 wrote:
Herr Adolph Obama.


wow.. I can't believe how people disrespect the President of the United States, it's hard for a citizen of another county to respect the citizens of the United States when they blatantly refer to their leader as Adolph Obama, a direct play on words refering to Adolph Hitler.

How can you seriously put your leader in the same catergory as a man you killed millions of people because they didnt' agree with his belief system? REALLY??? How disrespectful not only to the President of the United States (which I thought you were taught to show respect too??), but it's also very disrespectful to every citizen of the US and every survivor of the Holocaust.

Sometimes I am just simply amazed how some people will just throw around names, without thinking what they truly mean. I'm also just as amazed to see how people show such lack of respect to an office I was told should be held in the highest regards. I know I wouldn't want that job and I respect any person that would think of holding that position, I don't have to agree with their politics but I will respect them for their desire to run and hold that position.

Here's a little world secret... if you want other world leaders and it's citizens to show respect to your President, as a country you must first show him some respect. When as a nation you belittle that indivual, you risk dimensioning the respect of your leader by the rest of the world.
quote=jolly1 Herr Adolph Obama. /quote br br wo... (show quote)



Young lady, you have much to learn about history, and the American political scene. You might also look around you and discover just what foreign leadership really thinks of this American president.

How many U.S. Presidents have you ever heard tell the whole world that America is not a Christian Nation? How many U.S. Presidents have apologized to the world for the supposed arrogance of the American people? And how many U.S. Presidents have bowed down to a foreign leader and kissed his hand?

You need to study American history a lot more before you question your elders.
quote=MWAC quote=jolly1 Herr Adolph Obama. /quot... (show quote)


first do not refer to me as "young lady" it is disrepectful and I will not have it. I have not refered to you in any way that could even come off as showing any disrepect. To gain respect one must show respect. Just because you are older than me, does not automactially mean you gain my respect. My parents raised me to aks quesitons, not to follow blindly. Asking questions is what makes a person wiser and able to form their own opinions.

I really hate to break this to you but I wrote my thesis on the movement of civil rights in the United States as compaired to the movement in Canada, and how that differences affected the out come on each side of the boarder. That coupled with my education which taught about world issues, not just my nations history, I would wager my American History knowlege might be broader than you think.

America is NOT a christian nation, just like Canada is NOT a christian nation, they are nations that were founded to by people seeking refuge and separation of Church and State. As such both nations have and will conitue to welcome immigrates from all over the world, regardless of their nationality, religion and race.

FYI: Ronald Regan on behalf of the U.S. government apologized for the internment of the Japanese to the world.

President Bush also apologized to the Afghans when a Koran was mishandled by a soldier in 2008 (apparently the americain soldier shot the Koran).

There are actaully many well documented cases where a US Presient apologized to another nation for the behaviour of it's citizens, I would gladdly located a few more if you so require.

I'd taking a kiss to the hand over this - GWB giving a Saudi King a hug and kiss.

http://freakoutnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/bush-and-saudi-king.jpg?5ee190
quote=jolly1 quote=MWAC quote=jolly1 Herr Adolp... (show quote)


:thumbup:

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May 8, 2012 22:02:29   #
micro Loc: Texas
 
Bmac wrote:
Democrat John "Dirtbag" Edwards with Anthony "Hotdog" Weiner as vice president, and yes, I merrily showed neither one any "respect." 8-)


And Republican Newt Gingrich is a role model for all.

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May 8, 2012 22:07:28   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
gmcase wrote:
BW326 wrote:
tschmath wrote:
gmcase wrote:
OK, but how about answering my question which questioned your statement? Who has "shown" (indicating substance of some kind) that Fox is the most inaccurate? Did you just make it up because you don't like them or what?


I'm not sure if this answers your question, but a study by the University of Maryland in 2010 found Fox viewers to be the most misinformed viewers of news programs. Check it out in US News and World Report from Dec 2010.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed

And no, I don't like them. But that's beside the point. What's really ironic if you read the article is that even when Fox attacked the study, they lied about the University.
quote=gmcase OK, but how about answering my quest... (show quote)


Between the Canadian Regulators and the US News and World Reports, those are some pretty good "sources".

I guess it's true what they say, "You can bring the mountain to Mohammad, but you can't make him drink".
quote=tschmath quote=gmcase OK, but how about an... (show quote)


That's fine and dandy but nobody has provided a source to prove the assertion that Fox was "shown" to be the most inaccurate. That is not the same as their viewers being informed well or not. Let's be honest. The poster just made it up because they don't like Fox. I'm not a fan either but making crap up to make a point is lying.
quote=BW326 quote=tschmath quote=gmcase OK, but... (show quote)


Hey Doc ...... if you miss fox news just pick up the national enquirer ...... If you're inspired by fox news you were probably inspired by your high school principal ...... the only thing left for me to say to you is

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