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Apr 17, 2016 04:19:18   #
Sportsnewstoday2
 
By the way I have seen some crappy images come from very expensive camera gear in the hands of horrible shooters.

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Apr 17, 2016 04:23:56   #
Sportsnewstoday2
 
But when someone is really nice, I try to return kindness with a very polite response. But I do try to educate them. Just think if they truly believe that it is all about the camera. Believing this they go out and purchase the most expensive DSLR; only to find out that the camera is not magic.

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Apr 17, 2016 10:51:33   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Sportsnewstoday2 wrote:
But when someone is really nice, I try to return kindness with a very polite response. But I do try to educate them. Just think if they truly believe that it is all about the camera. Believing this they go out and purchase the most expensive DSLR; only to find out that the camera is not magic.


And here I was for fifty years thinking it was! :lol: :lol: :lol: All I can say is that my Nikon 4Ds seems to take better sports pictures that my old Kodak Brownie! What gives? I've spent a lot of money on gear trying to make myself better over those 50 years, and here you tell me it was for naught? OMG, the money I could have saved! No D5 for me, I guess!

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Apr 17, 2016 13:51:38   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
If any of you read my post here, you know I am a diplomatic guy, especially in business dealings and I have learned to live with theses "you must have a good camera" remarks and remaining unscathed by them and restraining any urge to take a client or anyone else to task for uttering that ridiculous refrain- it amounts to lack of insight or just plain sillyness for those who persist is saying such remarks- they just don't know any better!

Well, HOWEVER, it seems that some folks around here really take offense to this and it really gets their goat! So...for those folks; why not just get it off your chest and give the "offenders" a good piece of your mind- as my grandmother used to say a "GOOD WAHT FOR"!

How's this for an example: "Listen here, you mindless ingrate, here I present you with a lovely work of art and you credit my camera, a heartless piece of brainless and heartless hardware, rather than recognizing my talent, hard work, artistry and years of intense practice and my unending passion that goes into my creations! Please do me a favor and just go to HELL"!

Well- that won't win you any kind of popularity contest but it may surely relieve your stress. Sometimes you just gotta tell it like it is! Perhaps your mental health is worth more that your popularity. The above paragraph is not copyrighted, you may use it, alter it or add expletives at will!

Ed :thumbup:

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Apr 18, 2016 02:33:15   #
Sportsnewstoday2
 
:) For those of us like yourself that really understand photography. I would say that nice gear makes our job easier. In sports an area that I once covered on major league levels, such as the NFL, Div 1 etc. You really need good equipment to get the job done. But for regular photography most modern cameras are more than enough. Last year I took a Canon Rebel xs on a trip to Times Square. That 10MP camera did the job very well. But, give the latest greatest DSLR such as a Canon 1DX to the average person, the camera would not make a difference at all in the overall quality of the images produced.

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Apr 18, 2016 12:38:48   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Back in the Jurassic Era ( :) ) when I started out on photography, rapid action sports events were photographed with big, bulky and very rudimentary large format equipment. I covered boxing and wrestling events with a 4x5 Speed Graphic , at ringside, equipped with a 90 mm wide angle lens- no motor drive- no auto- exposure mechanisms- everything manual. I used disposable flash bulbs and later on electronic flash. The senior photographer,who covered big league baseball worked with giant "big bertha" telephoto lenses attached to large format Graphlex 4x5 and 5x7 SLRs- big bulky monsters. Yet, we all were able to capture split section action. It was and still is a matter of timing, understanding the sport, and being able to anticipate the action. This is learned by experience and practice.

I have see some photographer "machine-gunning" at ridiculous frames-per-second rates and still missing the peak of action because the have not developed the aforementioned skill sets.

Of course, good gear helps but skill and experience can trump fancy equipment. in many instances.

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Apr 18, 2016 16:50:55   #
neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Back in the Jurassic Era ( :) ) when I started out on photography, rapid action sports events were photographed with big, bulky and very rudimentary large format equipment. I covered boxing and wrestling events with a 4x5 Speed Graphic , at ringside, equipped with a 90 mm wide angle lens- no motor drive- no auto- exposure mechanisms- everything manual. I used disposable flash bulbs and later on electronic flash. The senior photographer,who covered big league baseball worked with giant "big bertha" telephoto lenses attached to large format Graphlex 4x5 and 5x7 SLRs- big bulky monsters. Yet, we all were able to capture split section action. It was and still is a matter of timing, understanding the sport, and being able to anticipate the action. This is learned by experience and practice.

I have see some photographer "machine-gunning" at ridiculous frames-per-second rates and still missing the peak of action because the have not developed the aforementioned skill sets.

Of course, good gear helps but skill and experience can trump fancy equipment. in many instances.
Back in the Jurassic Era ( :) ) when I started ou... (show quote)


...as I have discovered in attempts at shooting Granddaughter's High School track meets :?

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Apr 18, 2016 17:10:10   #
Capn_Dave
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Back in the Jurassic Era ( :) ) when I started out on photography, rapid action sports events were photographed with big, bulky and very rudimentary large format equipment. I covered boxing and wrestling events with a 4x5 Speed Graphic , at ringside, equipped with a 90 mm wide angle lens- no motor drive- no auto- exposure mechanisms- everything manual. I used disposable flash bulbs and later on electronic flash. The senior photographer,who covered big league baseball worked with giant "big bertha" telephoto lenses attached to large format Graphlex 4x5 and 5x7 SLRs- big bulky monsters. Yet, we all were able to capture split section action. It was and still is a matter of timing, understanding the sport, and being able to anticipate the action. This is learned by experience and practice.
I have see some photographer "machine-gunning" at ridiculous frames-per-second rates and still missing the peak of action because the have not developed the aforementioned skill sets.

Of course, good gear helps but skill and experience can trump fancy equipment. in many instances.
Back in the Jurassic Era ( :) ) when I started ou... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Been there done that. Flash bulbs were the size of 100 watters. Then upgraded to the Honeywell potato masher, you could hear the high pitched whine while it was charging.

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Apr 18, 2016 17:15:55   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Capn_Dave wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Been there done that. Flash bulbs were the size of 100 watters. Then upgraded to the Honeywell potato masher, you could hear the high pitched whine while it was charging.


And that was a very comforting feeling! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: ;)

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Apr 18, 2016 19:01:07   #
cmoroney Loc: Pasadena, California
 
My reply (not original unfortunately so I can't claim credit) to "you must have a really nice camera": "Thanks. I taught it everything it knows".

Catherine

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Apr 18, 2016 21:08:49   #
skywolf
 
That is a great response!

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