CLP1943 Loc: Wisconsin

It's my belief that JPEGS are RAW images processed in camera to produce a JPEG. So my question is: Can the alterations such as lighter/darker, saturation, contrast, etc. be changed by the camera owner or are they set in stone at the factory?

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

I use a D700 and yes there are some degree of adjustment available in camera. I've never tried it, as I shoot RAW and PP in PS.
--Bob

orrie smith Loc: Kansas

not recommended, but possible. it would be better to shoot raw and post process in something like lightroom or photoshop elements, or the full photoshop program if you are into learning. the raw image maintains the data to post process, where the jpeg loses a lot of information once it is done in camera.

Kuzano

Yes, considerable image processing is available in the image processing engine of your camera, IF you take the time to know your camera. My Fuji X has 7 custom profiles and a myriad of settings to tailor these profiles.

I even have "film simulation", or the ability to simulate many film emulsions I used for years when shooting film. Velvia, Acros, and others.

I do NOT shoot RAW and I do not do much PP outside the camera. I know my camera. I started paying attention to the flexibility of the evolving camera's and as a result stopped shooting RAW about 4 years ago. That was after about 5 years of RAW and PP in CS2 and CS3. Started using Photoshop many years ago. First version #7... cost $595.00 Probably two decades ago.

Have not turned on Photoshop for about 4 years now, nor any other major editing program.

I don't agree, at any level, with the common complaint that Jpeg out of the camera are at the dictate of the camera manufacturer's.

Real photographers use all the tools built into the camera, before turning on the computer to fix what they did not get right in the camera.

Now, let me say, I am not making a case here for better choices... each to his own... even the RAW crowd.

I am merely saying the choice is yours once the information is in front of you. I am just another source of information that is not as often found as one might think.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

I'll take umbrage with your last comment about PP to fix things they didn't get right in the camera. That is not what post processing is about, at least not for some of us.
--Bob

orrie smith Loc: Kansas

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rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA

It appears you have yet to open your camera's manual! All but the cheapest Mickey Mouse toy cameras allow you to adjust in-camera parameters.

Kuzano

Right Bob.... "at least not for some of us". I get that part.

RAW is about taking the low road in the capture process, when some (I said some) don't really know how to get the capture in the field. I mean, gosh, how many RAW can one shoot, and where does all that PP time come from.

"Some" people can become proficient with RAW and PP, while most get baffled and fed up with it.

That was me. Too much computer, not enough brain at the point of capture.

Now I will say that I have made my living consulting and working on computers for near 30 years. Damned if I want it to invade my recreation and hobby... photography since the 60's.

So Umbrage all you want... does your face squinch up when you do it?
:wink:

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Youch! These are just tools, and modern digital cameras are just computers in drag. You need the brains even if you have access to the biggest, baddest computers on the planet. You are both correct and the argument, if there is one, is futile.

Now back to Summit, Sierra, and Aurora.... :roll: :roll:

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Raw is about taking the low road? So all those professionals who use raw are taking the low road? It might be a good idea to do a little research before making such silly assumptions. Perhaps you don't think raw is worth the effort because you never learned how to get the best from a raw image in PP. For those of us who understand the advantages of raw files and are proficient at using PP tools to maximize an images potential, we can only shake our heads and smile when we read comments like yours. :roll: Believe or not you can have plenty of brain at the point of capture and still significantly improve an exposure in post. The two are not mutually exclusive, no matter how much you want them to be. Feel free not to use it. Its a choice.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

CLP, let me see if I can pick up the slack while the rest of these guys busy pounding on one another!! LoL
Yes, you can set EVERY parameter in the camera on JPEG and the camera will process those as you have set them.
You can also set those same parameters in Raw, and if you convert to jpeg using the corporate Raw converter, it will hold all the parameters you have set and convert them to jpeg at the time of conversion, BUT you also have the option to change them later as well. Some cameras will record both Raw and jpeg simultaneously to one card or two cards as well, so that you have both files.
IF for instance, you are shooting for portfolio, some may choose to record in Raw. IF you are shooting a friends kids B-Day party and your goal is just to provide some pics of the event, you might want to set the parameters and shoot in Jpeg to eliminate all of the PP later on. You can even shoot small Jpeg files that you can deliver as is.
Just my 2 cents!!! ;-)
SS

James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA

Haven't photographers been Post Processing in the darkroom for over a century? Just because the tools are different, the concept is the same.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

It depends on the camera to which you can tweak the jpg (beyond, the triangle of exposure).

For example with Olympus, you have the color creator setting, which allows for quite a bit of manipulation.

http://robinwong.blogspot.com/2013/09/olympus-om-d-e-m1-review-color-creator.html

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

Have a D7000, you can do each of these things in the camera.

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

Well said, Kudos too you. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: