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Feb 13, 2016 17:33:51   #
Mdsmith Loc: North Carolina
 
Trying to capture bluebirds in flight, and I have to take at the feeder, so if bird is in focus, feeder is not, etc. This was taken at 1/800, f5.0, ISO200. I actually focused about 2 inches behind the feeder.

HELP. Any ideas would be appreciated.


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Feb 13, 2016 17:52:14   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Md for this kind of shooting the equipment is critical. But it's the thing you DON'T mention.
And, why would you even WANT the feeder in the shot?!?! Just wondering. ;-)
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Feb 13, 2016 18:00:57   #
par4fore Loc: Bay Shore N.Y.
 
Mdsmith wrote:
Trying to capture bluebirds in flight, and I have to take at the feeder, so if bird is in focus, feeder is not, etc. This was taken at 1/800, f5.0, ISO200. I actually focused about 2 inches behind the feeder.

HELP. Any ideas would be appreciated.


Changing the ISO to 800 will change the speed to 1/3200 sec. I think 1/800th is to slow.

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Feb 13, 2016 18:51:32   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
Mdsmith wrote:
Trying to capture bluebirds in flight, and I have to take at the feeder, so if bird is in focus, feeder is not, etc. This was taken at 1/800, f5.0, ISO200. I actually focused about 2 inches behind the feeder.

HELP. Any ideas would be appreciated.


I would use a higher shutter speed, and I always use a minimum of f/8 for aperture.

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Feb 13, 2016 19:21:44   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
There is a Bird In Flight forum section. If you posted there you might get some good suggestions. Also, Photo Gallery is a good place to post pictures.

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Feb 13, 2016 22:30:14   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Mdsmith wrote:
Trying to capture bluebirds in flight, and I have to take at the feeder, so if bird is in focus, feeder is not, etc. This was taken at 1/800, f5.0, ISO200. I actually focused about 2 inches behind the feeder.

HELP. Any ideas would be appreciated.


Md, if you knew anything about flight you would realize what a fantastic shot you have. Bravo to you! Your timing is almost perfect, a newyorksecond before launch, symmetry as a poem. Had you blinked you would have captured an empty moment in time. Would you object if i downloaded a copy of it? I've tried to do this for years. Show this to a fellow flyer and watch the reaction. You caught the eyes! WOW!

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Feb 14, 2016 07:06:45   #
Mdsmith Loc: North Carolina
 
Don't have a problem with downloading. Thx for your kind words. I keep trying.

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Feb 14, 2016 07:33:49   #
sbrigham
 
To focus the bird and feeder you need a wider depth-of-field. To do this increase to F16. To get a bird-in-flight in focus you will need shutter speeds of 1/1000 and faster. This will likely require an ISO of 1000 or more. Good luck.

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Feb 14, 2016 07:42:40   #
Mdsmith Loc: North Carolina
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Md for this kind of shooting the equipment is critical. But it's the thing you DON'T mention.
And, why would you even WANT the feeder in the shot?!?! Just wondering. ;-)
SS


Naturally I don't want the feeder in the photo. Am not a professional, just having fun. Tamron 270 and Sony a58 on a tripod with remote. Hard to know where they are going except to food, and they are speedy.

I have some good shots in the spring when they are nesting.

Sorry, hit the button twice

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Feb 14, 2016 07:43:00   #
Mdsmith Loc: North Carolina
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Md for this kind of shooting the equipment is critical. But it's the thing you DON'T mention.
And, why would you even WANT the feeder in the shot?!?! Just wondering. ;-)
SS


Naturally I don't want the feeder in the photo. Am not a professional, just having fun. Tamron 270 and Sony a58 on a tripod with remote. Hard to know where they are going except to food, and they are speedy.

I have some good shots in the spring when they are nesting.

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Feb 14, 2016 09:01:46   #
Mdsmith Loc: North Carolina
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Md for this kind of shooting the equipment is critical. But it's the thing you DON'T mention.
And, why would you even WANT the feeder in the shot?!?! Just wondering. ;-)
SS


I think my brain was trying to use the feeder to focus and that's why it's in there.

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Feb 14, 2016 11:34:03   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
Shutter speed was far too slow. Get up to 1/2000 as a starter, keep the f/5 - experiment by going even lower, f.4, or 3.5, and work as slow an ISO as possible. Shoot a little higher to reduce the feeder. Professionally, you can not have the feeder at all.

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Feb 14, 2016 12:16:51   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
sbrigham wrote:
To focus the bird and feeder you need a wider depth-of-field. To do this increase to F16. To get a bird-in-flight in focus you will need shutter speeds of 1/1000 and faster. This will likely require an ISO of 1000 or more. Good luck.


That sums up everything I could say about this shot. Note that the throat is in focus but not the beak.

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Feb 14, 2016 12:45:54   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
Small birds are a real challenge to shoot in flight! They move too fast and too erratically for most AF systems to keep up. Most feeder birds will use a nearby perch before going to the feeder. Place the feeder in a location away from any perches (Branches, garden furniture etc) and then provide only one perch, preferably a natural object. The birds will fly from the perch to the feeder in a predictable path. Ideally, the path will be parallel to your position. Manually pre-focus on a point in this path and shoot the bird as it flies past. Keep a wide enough view with enough DOF and you should get a few keepers. Shoot at 1/2000, f/8 and ISO 800 in bright sun.

The hardest part is knowing exactly when the bird will take off. They are so fast, it is easy to miss so place that perch just far enough away!

Come visit us at the BIF/BOW forum for more information.

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Feb 14, 2016 13:21:26   #
Mdsmith Loc: North Carolina
 
Appreciate all the help. Will see what I can do when the sun decides to shine.

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