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No U1 or U2 Mode on D500, Why?
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Jan 11, 2016 03:17:29   #
rbfanman
 
Camera features come, and go, and usefulness has nothing to do with it. Depth Of Field Preview is a useful feature, but absent from most cameras these days. Someone with more power than brains hand down decisions on such, from on high, and lesser types go along with it.

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Jan 11, 2016 05:17:17   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
rbfanman wrote:
Camera features come, and go, and usefulness has nothing to do with it. Depth Of Field Preview is a useful feature, but absent from most cameras these days. Someone with more power than brains hand down decisions on such, from on high, and lesser types go along with it.
I guess it must the user-settings, right? I shoot Canon, no U settings, but I do like custom settings and pros do too, it has nothing to do with memory, but a whole bunch of settings for certain situations, that can be activated by a single push of a button, what's wrong with that?

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Jan 11, 2016 15:11:12   #
PRodacy Loc: New Mexico
 
MT Shooter wrote:
?????
Facts are "snobbery"?
That statement clearly shows you will never have the need of a Pro level camera.


I have and use Pro level cameras. I just like to work smarter, not harder. Look at it this way. Sure, I know what all of the settings are on my camera and how to set them, and I often do. However, I tend to shoot a couple types of images more often than others, so, why change 5, 6, or more settings through menus, twisting dials, etc. when I can do all of this with one simple movement of the mode dial? The other functions are always available when I need them.

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Jan 11, 2016 16:44:22   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
Never used it or the built in flash.

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Feb 15, 2017 06:44:28   #
hemantkarkhanis Loc: India
 
JPL wrote:
This is not a useful feature for pros. They know their cameras, and how to set them, use them almost every day. U1 and U2 is for people who forget how to set their cameras up for different situations. It is not very professional if you can not remember how to set your camera. And also everything you do not need is just in your way if you are a pro. Even I do not use those settings, because then I would have to remember them and figure out if they are correct for the exact situation I am shooting in. For my kind of shooting manual everything is always the easiest, not Program or Auto or Scenes or U1 or U2. Maybe MT Shooter should have explained this in more detail for you, it is understandable that some people do not get this easily.
This is not a useful feature for pros. They know ... (show quote)


I am with Nikon since 1999. Started my photography with Nikon Coolpix 4500 then had D7000. Now I have D7200 and D750. All these last 3 cameras have U1 and U2 modes. I don't think that pros never require these modes. I have configure these modes as follows-

U1 for Nature photography
U2 for portrait photography

Now look the settings for each (This is my very personal setting. For same situations your may be different)-

Image quality- U1 Fine U2 Normal
Image size- U1 Large U2 Medium
White balance- U1 Direct sunlight U2 Flash with -0.3EV
Picture control- U1 Vivid* (more sharp and more saturation) U2 Portrait* (Less sharp and less saturation) (* mean change in default values)
Active D-lighting- U1 H U2 N
AF- U1 Continues group area U2 Single 1
Exposure comp- U1 -0.7EV U2 0EV
Metering- U1 Center weighted U2 Matrix
ISO- U1 Auto ISO (upto 1600) U2 Auto ISO (upto 400)

Don't think that I never do changes in these settings. I do always.... depending upon the situation. And the good thing is that until and unless I save the changed settings, they will not become my default U1 and U2 settings.

Now tell me.....
If I want to change my photographic situation from nature to portrait and again back to nature quickly, U1 and U2 modes are not important????? Without these U1 and U2 I might have fondle with all the above settings. There is no matter that you are pro or not. U1 and U2 will surely help shooters to become ready for changing in conditions.

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Feb 15, 2017 07:00:08   #
hemantkarkhanis Loc: India
 
speters wrote:
I guess it must the user-settings, right? I shoot Canon, no U settings, but I do like custom settings and pros do too, it has nothing to do with memory, but a whole bunch of settings for certain situations, that can be activated by a single push of a button, what's wrong with that?


You are exactly right.

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Feb 15, 2017 14:53:07   #
Jim Bob
 
rmalarz wrote:
Bill, call 1-800-645-6687 between 9AM and 8PM EST and ask them. They probably have the answer.
--Bob


Great response.

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Feb 15, 2017 14:57:15   #
Jim Bob
 
Caysnowman wrote:
I understand the answer but not the rationale. "Auto" mode I can see would be superfluous but but I'd think U1/U2 would be helpful; guess that's why I'm not a Pro. Might be one or more other reasons as well :?.

Thanks, Bill


You have good sense. Others who claim it is a "Professional" camera are simply apologists for Nikon. There is a reason Nikon has been losing money and part of it has to do with the company's lack of vision and failure to include useful features throughout its model line. The D500 is no exception. There are numerous professionals who find these missing features appalling.

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Feb 15, 2017 22:13:49   #
SkyKing Loc: Thompson Ridge, NY
 
...if I understand your question correctly the d500 allows you to set up 4 preset photo shooting banks that the camera can save and you can easy access them by pressing the italic i button on the lower right...in essence you can change the d500 from a pro camera to a point-and-shoot camera...

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Feb 15, 2017 23:00:29   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SkyKing wrote:
...if I understand your question correctly the d500 allows you to set up 4 preset photo shooting banks that the camera can save and you can easy access them by pressing the italic i button on the lower right...in essence you can change the d500 from a pro camera to a point-and-shoot camera...


In reality, most of the cameras we see used from day to day can be set up as a point-and-shoot. My problem is that some days I forget to point and on others I forget to shoot.


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Feb 16, 2017 09:12:15   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
SkyKing wrote:
in essence you can change the d500 from a pro camera to a point-and-shoot camera...

Technically, the D500, and D750 for that matter, are NOT pro cameras; Nikon classifies them as "Enthusiast Cameras". The only bodies Nikon classifies as "Professional" are the D5 and D810/810A.

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Feb 16, 2017 09:40:48   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
MtnMan wrote:
Sorry but Auto mode and P are quite different. Read your manual if you have a camera with it.

Nikon confuses the issue by including the word auto with all of the non-M modes. It isn't the same as Auto mode, which does not allow you to control anything. P mode is the same as A or S on what you can control.


Exactly!
It always amazes me just how many photographers don't understand Program mode and how to use it.

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Feb 16, 2017 10:10:11   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
rook2c4 wrote:
It always amazes me just how many photographers don't understand Program mode and how to use it.

Totally agree. So many "photographers" poo-poo Program mode when they have absolutely no idea of its usefulness. I use it quite frequently when I am walking along rural roads and paths in anticipation of "targets of opportunity" - where I encounter a fleeting subject that may be gone before I could get my camera properly set up were I in A, S or M mode. Program works LIKE Auto, except I have preset parameters which Auto doesn't. Another feature of Program mode which many are unaware of is if I have the time and want to fine tune what Program mode has selected for me, turning the main and/or the secondary control dials will adjust the aperture and shutter speeds while keeping exposure constant, so if I want a smaller aperture or faster shutter I can get what I want quite quickly by just spinning a dial and watching the readout in my viewfinder.

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Feb 16, 2017 11:08:02   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Exactly!
It always amazes me just how many photographers don't understand Program mode and how to use it.


To me program, shutter priority, and aperture priority all do the same thing. In aperture mode if I decide shutter speed is more important I adjust the aperture until the camera selects the shutter speed I want. Conversely, in shutter priority you can select the shutter speed that gives you the aperture you want. In program mode you just turn the main dial (Nikon) to get the shutter speed or aperture you want. If the results aren't the same I think there is something wrong. In any auto mode, it is important to keep an eye on how the exposure +/- is set.

I started with aperture priority because in cameras of old it was easier to change the aperture than shutter speed because my hand was always gripping the aperture ring. I pretty much stick with it, although today with it being a choice of two dials it really doesn't matter.

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Feb 4, 2018 11:45:00   #
Jerrin1 Loc: Wolverhampton, England
 
JPL wrote:
This is not a useful feature for pros. They know their cameras, and how to set them, use them almost every day. U1 and U2 is for people who forget how to set their cameras up for different situations. It is not very professional if you can not remember how to set your camera. And also everything you do not need is just in your way if you are a pro. Even I do not use those settings, because then I would have to remember them and figure out if they are correct for the exact situation I am shooting in. For my kind of shooting manual everything is always the easiest, not Program or Auto or Scenes or U1 or U2. Maybe MT Shooter should have explained this in more detail for you, it is understandable that some people do not get this easily.
This is not a useful feature for pros. They know ... (show quote)


I really don't see your reply as a valid argument at all. I have a Nikon D500 and an Olympus EM1 mark II. Both manufacturers identify these cameras as professional. My D500 has no quick access pre-sets. My EM1.2 has three on the top rotary dial. The Olympus system is brilliant and has nothing to do with the user not knowing how to set the camera up. It has everything to do with not missing a shot. Here is a real life example: I was taking photographs of a perched bird - 1/800th, f5.6, auto ISO no compensation, single focus point. In my peripheral vision I saw a Heron flying over my shoulder. I had moments to react. I turned my top dial to pre - set 1, which is set up at 1/2000th, f8, auto ISO, - 0.3 comp, 9 segment focus points. and took a sequence of shots. Had I been using my D500 I would not have obtained the shots, as the Heron would have been further away. Pre-sets are designed for photographers who know exactly how to set a camera up and are particularly useful to wildlife photographers. If you are taking a photograph of a slow moving deer which suddenly puts a grouse in the air your current settings will not capture the grouse. Switching almost instantaneously to pre-sets will, though.

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