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Jan 2, 2016 11:24:51   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
I am having an internal debate with myself and I would like your opions to help clarify my thinking. Thank you.

I will have the means to aquire another camera. I am debating between two, (remember I am a Sony shooter) the A6000 or the A7RII.

The basic differences between my current camera (A77II) and the A6000 is size and mirrorless. Same sensor and MP. This choice would allow me to get flash units, and more lenses. My lens choices would limited to the OSS lenses.

If I move to the FF A7RII, then there are a lot of differences. Making this move would cause to get the system a piece at a time due to finances. I have more lens choices because Steady Shot is in camera.

Do I really need 42 MP or is 24 MP enough?

Will I ever use 4K video?

One more consideration, I am in the process of becoming one of the photographers for a local art center.

Your comments are appreciated. Thank you.

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Jan 2, 2016 11:34:28   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
chapjohn wrote:
I am having an internal debate with myself and I would like your opions to help clarify my thinking. Thank you.

I will have the means to aquire another camera. I am debating between two, (remember I am a Sony shooter) the A6000 or the A7RII.

The basic differences between my current camera (A77II) and the A6000 is size and mirrorless. Same sensor and MP. This choice would allow me to get flash units, and more lenses. My lens choices would limited to the OSS lenses.

If I move to the FF A7RII, then there are a lot of differences. Making this move would cause to get the system a piece at a time due to finances. I have more lens choices because Steady Shot is in camera.

Do I really need 42 MP or is 24 MP enough?

Will I ever use 4K video?

One more consideration, I am in the process of becoming one of the photographers for a local art center.

Your comments are appreciated. Thank you.
I am having an internal debate with myself and I w... (show quote)


24 MP is probably enough for just about any type of photography.

Without knowing your preferences any advice would be a W.A.Q. on my part.

If it was me I'd go for the 42MP, but that's me.

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Jan 2, 2016 11:36:33   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
chapjohn wrote:
I am having an internal debate with myself and I would like your opions to help clarify my thinking. Thank you.

I will have the means to aquire another camera. I am debating between two, (remember I am a Sony shooter) the A6000 or the A7RII.

The basic differences between my current camera (A77II) and the A6000 is size and mirrorless. Same sensor and MP. This choice would allow me to get flash units, and more lenses. My lens choices would limited to the OSS lenses.

If I move to the FF A7RII, then there are a lot of differences. Making this move would cause to get the system a piece at a time due to finances. I have more lens choices because Steady Shot is in camera.

Do I really need 42 MP or is 24 MP enough?

Will I ever use 4K video?

One more consideration, I am in the process of becoming one of the photographers for a local art center.

Your comments are appreciated. Thank you.
I am having an internal debate with myself and I w... (show quote)


In the end, only you can make this decision. I have just received my A7RII. There is a bit of a learning curve, but just like my Nikon cameras I just ignore the video modes because that does not interest me (at this time).

With the adapters available, you should be able to use all your legacy glass or if necessary obtain used manual focus glass that will work well with adapters. Focus peaking really seems to work.

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Jan 2, 2016 11:38:27   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
chapjohn wrote:
.../... (remember I am a Sony shooter) the A6000 or the A7RII.

The basic differences between my current camera (A77II) and the A6000 is size and mirrorless. Same sensor and MP. This choice would allow me to get flash units, and more lenses. My lens choices would limited to the OSS lenses. liveview or electronic viewers have a long way to go before being usable (my opinion)

If I move to the FF A7RII, then there are a lot of differences. the main one is not having many lenses but then again how many do you really need? .../...

Do I really need 42 MP or is 24 MP enough? It really depends on the use. If you print really large, 42, otherwise 24

Will I ever use 4K video? Probably, the displays are starting to come down and that is where the real cost is

One more consideration, I am in the process of becoming one of the photographers for a local art center. An issue only if it means you will get an income from that to feed your addiction to gear...

.../...
.../... (remember I am a Sony shooter) the A6000 o... (show quote)

You have answered your own question thought. What you need is a robust lighting system... No light, no picture...

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Jan 2, 2016 12:32:50   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The larger the pixel count the larger a print become before pixelation. So the end point size of your images the majority of time will define what tool you need to do what you want. The 24 Mp a6000 at less than $1000 is a far cry from the 42 Mp A7RII at about $3200. And that does not even include the lenses dilemma.

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Jan 2, 2016 13:28:06   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
chapjohn wrote:
I am having an internal debate with myself and I would like your opions to help clarify my thinking. Thank you.

I will have the means to aquire another camera. I am debating between two, (remember I am a Sony shooter) the A6000 or the A7RII.

The basic differences between my current camera (A77II) and the A6000 is size and mirrorless. Same sensor and MP. This choice would allow me to get flash units, and more lenses. My lens choices would limited to the OSS lenses.

If I move to the FF A7RII, then there are a lot of differences. Making this move would cause to get the system a piece at a time due to finances. I have more lens choices because Steady Shot is in camera.

Do I really need 42 MP or is 24 MP enough?

Will I ever use 4K video?

One more consideration, I am in the process of becoming one of the photographers for a local art center.

Your comments are appreciated. Thank you.
I am having an internal debate with myself and I w... (show quote)


Have you looked at the A7II? It seems to me that it would be a very good balance of what you are looking for at a very good price point compared to the R model.

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Jan 2, 2016 13:59:58   #
Flyerace Loc: Mt Pleasant, WI
 
If you can write off the cost of the camera equipment on your taxes, spend away. If you can't, purchase the cheaper one. The big question...will you be happy knowing you left the one you really want on the shelf?

Only you can make the decision. I can afford, after saving, to purchase most any camera out there (in the Nikon line). However, I can no longer carry the heavy weight around. I like the job my current cameras do for me. So I no longer have "big camera" envy. I am purchasing better lenses as I feel I can spend the money i.e. save it up.

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Jan 2, 2016 15:22:45   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
I will get the Sony ????4 E to A adaptor with either camera.

I am leaning towards the A7RII. I see moving to another 24 MP camera as a lateral move and not an upgrade.

I am retiring the A77II, it is a great camera.

I will get at least one flash also. Probably the 32, I have the 42 but it has the Minolta shoe (I have the adpator). At some point I will get the 43.

The A7RII will give more flexibility in how I shoot.

More lights are also in the future plans.

Thank you for comments.

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Jan 2, 2016 15:26:52   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
chapjohn wrote:
I will get the Sony ????4 E to A adaptor with either camera.

I am leaning towards the A7RII. I see moving to another 24 MP camera as a lateral move and not an upgrade.

I am retiring the A77II, it is a great camera.

I will get at least one flash also. Probably the 32, I have the 42 but it has the Minolta shoe (I have the adpator). At some point I will get the 43.

The A7RII will give more flexibility in how I shoot.

More lights are also in the future plans.

Thank you for comments.
I will get the Sony ????4 E to A adaptor with eith... (show quote)


Check these flashes http://www.adorama.com/NIND700AKC.html?hotlink=t&svfor=5m&gclid=CjwKEAiAh560BRDu-aD93r-J_zoSJACrxZG2pA0IjDHje5UEGJLjyEX87M4aBhDFIwJsmrkLUVWobhoCMfvw_wcB

I have no knowledge of quality, but the thought of relying on IR to control remote flashes gives me pause. You may also already own a wireless flash system that can be re-purposed to use on the A7R-II.

Have fun!

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Jan 2, 2016 16:41:56   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
chapjohn wrote:
I will get the Sony ????4 E to A adaptor with either camera.
I am leaning towards the A7RII. I see moving to another 24 MP camera as a lateral move and not an upgrade ...
I am retiring the A77II, it is a great camera ...
The A7RII will give more flexibility in how I shoot ...
It sounds like you've already considered the a7 II and dismissed it since its sensor is "just" 24 MP BUT then again, the cost of the a7R II is going to be a temporary burden.

If you have not made up your mind yet, how about considering the forthcoming (next month) A68 model, which in corporates some of the same features your A77 II has?

That way, you needn't spend $349 on the LAEA-4 adapter or buy new E-mount lenses! It's your choice. Think about what else you could do with the unspent bucks.

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Jan 2, 2016 16:55:10   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
chapjohn wrote:
If I move to the FF A7RII, then there are a lot of differences. Making this move would cause to get the system a piece at a time due to finances. I have more lens choices because Steady Shot is in camera.

I began my computer life with a 20MB hard drive. Now, most programs are larger than that. Don't worry about having something too good. Few people complain that the quality is too high.

I have limited experience with Sony, but you're probably not going to buy a new camera every year, right? Do a careful study of the differences and advantages of both. You can get a decent price for your unwanted gear on ebay and put that money toward new gear. Get what you want.

Please let us know what you finally decide.

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Jan 2, 2016 18:13:25   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
chapjohn wrote:
....Do I really need 42 MP or is 24 MP enough?

What do you photograph? I have a 16 and a 36 MPx camera. The 16 MPx is better for some things, the 36 is better for resolution. My 16 MPx camera gets 90% of the use. When I need the high pixel count I use the 36, but for most photos 16 is just fine.

If you are limited in resolution, you might want the higher pixel count. If you do REALLY large prints you might want the higher pixel count. If you do ordinary photography like most people, the 24 MPx camera will probably be enough for you.

chapjohn wrote:
Will I ever use 4K video?

Again, it depends on you. I rarely use video although both my cameras have it available. I take about 10,000 shots/year. I take about 10 videos/year.

Video is a whole nother game. Quite different from still photography. And it takes a lot more computer memory since the files are Much Larger.

chapjohn wrote:
One more consideration, I am in the process of becoming one of the photographers for a local art center.

Your comments are appreciated. Thank you.

If that involves copying the art you might want the higher resolution. If it's primarily PR shots, the lower resolution will probably be sufficient. Maybe an occasional video, but 4K is probably not necessary.

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Jan 2, 2016 18:36:42   #
mrjcall Loc: Woodfin, NC
 
" The 16 MPx is better for some things, the 36 is better for resolution."

What is the 16 mp camera better at? :shock:

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Jan 2, 2016 20:07:58   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
mrjcall wrote:
" The 16 MPx is better for some things, the 36 is better for resolution."

What is the 16 mp camera better at? :shock:


The D4 does better at high ISO and has a higher frame rate and a faster autofocus. I do a lot of indoor events and the high ISO is very useful. I can use up to 10K pretty easily.

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Jan 2, 2016 20:14:05   #
mrjcall Loc: Woodfin, NC
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
The D4 does better at high ISO and has a higher frame rate and a faster autofocus. I do a lot of indoor events and the high ISO is very useful. I can use up to 10K pretty easily.


Ahhh, thought we were comparing megapixels..... 8-)

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