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Dec 27, 2015 13:09:10   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Oh, How True!



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Dec 27, 2015 13:18:26   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Everyone's a pro...

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Dec 27, 2015 13:21:41   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Based on my gear, I am a Super Pro.

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Dec 27, 2015 13:26:19   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Oh, How True!

LOL! And tomorrow they'll be getting on the "hog" for advice on settings for shooting their first wedding.

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Dec 27, 2015 13:30:27   #
tsilva Loc: Arizona
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
LOL! And tomorrow they'll be getting on the "hog" for advice on settings for shooting their first wedding.


And there will be idiots that have never shot one trying to tell them...

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Dec 27, 2015 13:35:51   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Oh, How True!


You can make a small fortune as a pro photographer-- provided, of course, that you start with a large fortune. (old joke but it still applies)

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Dec 27, 2015 13:42:30   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
tsilva wrote:
And there will be idiots that have never shot one trying to tell them...


Sad, but true.

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Dec 27, 2015 13:54:37   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Sad, but true.


Same with computers.
Everyone who has had one for 3 months is somehow an expert.

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Dec 27, 2015 14:13:08   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
Hey, anyone can be an expert on youtube! :roll:

will

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Dec 27, 2015 14:15:52   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Based on my gear, I am a Super Pro.



Me too! But seriously, I aspire to some day be able to make bit of income with my photography. But I'm a long way from that point just now.

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Dec 27, 2015 14:17:13   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
Soul Dr. wrote:
Hey, anyone can be an expert on youtube! :roll: will

Yep. Just watch it and they will show/tell you.
Some even have a 7th grade capability of communication.

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Dec 27, 2015 14:33:13   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
If I wanted to really get sarcastic or negative I would say that the inexperienced, uneducated, uninitiated, and inept "photographers" with their shiny new DSLRs will not join the Hog and seek advice, rather they will join the Hog and tell us, the more experienced folks, what to do! The will tell us that we are a bunch of sticks-in-the-mud with too many rules and that "art" should have no such rules and guidelines! OK- I won't say that as if this never happens :)!

Weddings?! Rookies? I won't call folks that go into the photography BUSINESS, especially in the wedding field, without experience and know how "rookies" because that word somehow indicates that there is some training, self-teaching and on-the-job-training already in place and the rookie is just beginning his or her career- perhaps under supervision or mentorship. If I want to remain polite and gentlemanly, I don't know what to call them. perhaps the word "silly" is benign enough yet appropriately descriptive. The word "stupid" may seem too harsh!

I don't know who is sillier, the rank amateurs who represent themselves as pros or the folks who hire them! Nobody wins- the "customers end up with very disappointing results and the silly photographers, oftentimes, end up with a lawsuit on their hands- there have been some humdingers going through the courts nowadays!

As a long time professional photographer, I am not worried, in the least, about amateurs taking away business from real pros so I "preach" only because I take no pleasure in seeing fumbling photographers or their dissatisfied clients, suffer the consequences of the misconception that anyone with a "good camera" can do the work of an accomplished professional.

Even if the equipment is highly automated and accurate to a great extent, the skill sets of timing, fast almost autonomic shooting, directing people and the many artistic aspects and technical nuances of wedding photography and wedding portraiture is way beyond the automation of any camera and is not even suggested in the camera's user manual.

Ed

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Dec 27, 2015 14:33:50   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
I'm not a "pro"-- but my camera takes really good pictures. I always check it in the morning to see what's new…..

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Dec 27, 2015 17:01:13   #
Picdude Loc: Ohio
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Oh, How True!


You mean....just owning a dslr DOESN'T make you a pro....REALLY?? :shock: :shock:

:wink: :D

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Dec 27, 2015 18:05:55   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Yup! Just like having an expensive set of pots and pans don't make you a chef, having some sharp instruments don't qualify you to perform surgery, liking to tinker with cars don't make you a qualified mechanic and getting a "bang" out of experimenting with explosives does not qualify you as a demolition expert!

Well- practicing some of theses professions without a license can land you in jail or even in the graveyard. Messing up someone's wedding pictures can result in a nasty lawsuit but no one goes to jail or dies unless, however, the wedding couple is mob-connected and the photographer gets, shall we say, "whacked"! Something to think about!

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