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Dec 22, 2015 08:25:30   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
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Ted Liette wrote:
This may be a dumb question but after I do my adjustments to my photos in Lightroom, then close the program and come back later, all my changes have reverted back as they where before. Is there some way to save my work or am I doing something wrong? I shoot all my photos in RAW, so I have something to adjust.

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Dec 22, 2015 08:41:12   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
Tim grey is very good. Also so is this tutorial although it's Lightroom 4 it doesn't matter. It's free just scroll down.http://en.elephorm.com/tuto-lightroom-4-complete-training.html
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Dec 22, 2015 09:45:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Capture48 wrote:
This sounds as simple as you are looking at the wrong folder, especially if you imported from your hard drive.

That's what caught my attention - importing again from the hard drive, rather than opening the processed file in LR.

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Dec 22, 2015 10:14:08   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Ted Liette wrote:
I'm using Lightroom version 5.7 ad I do shoot in RAW. I'm a beginner with Lightroom and I'm trying to figure out why this is happening. I don't know about DNG files or side car files but you are correct when you state "when you reopen Lightroom and look at the image you edited in the Develop module the edits are no longer there?" I'm importing my files from my computer's hard drive. Are you saying that whenever I finish working on my photos, I should export the finished product to another area on my hard drive? I have exported files one at a time but can I export a group of files at one time? I'm sorry but I guess I'm full of questions, and thank you for taking the time to help me out.
I'm using Lightroom version 5.7 ad I do shoot in R... (show quote)


Too many questions at once.

The prior post said that all edits are automatically stored. Whether the storage is in the Catalog or a sidecar .XMP file is immaterial to this discussion.

The stored information about your edits is a list of the changes made. The original RAW image is never altered. The edits are applied each time you open the file in the develop module, and any additional changes made are also automatically stored. Thus non-destructive editing in RAW files.

You do not have to export the files to save the changes.

You can perform a batch export.

As I said in another topic get Jeff Schewe's book http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Negative-Processing-Lightroom-Photoshop/dp/0134033175/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1450796845&sr=1-1&keywords=jeff+schewe on processing in LR and PS. There is a mountain of useful information in a small easy to read book.

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Dec 22, 2015 12:43:00   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Mr PC wrote:
You just need to "Export" your photo when you are happy with it. Lightroom never alters the original (of course, RAW files can't be changed anyway, but JPGs can). The exported file will be a separate file and LR will remember the changes you made to the original as well. It stores those changes in its catalog (database) but never makes those changes to the original. My advice is to spend $10 on Tony Northrup's Kindle book on Lightroom. It has over 20 hours of video instruction in addition to being a very good step by step book to get you up and running in a logical order. A little study on your part is what's called for. Many here will be happy to help you once you put the time in to get a basic understanding of LR. Good luck!
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Exporting only serves to create another file, with the Lightroom Adjustments baked in forever....

Assuming that the OP is editing a file in Lightroom, then viewing the same file again, all of the edits made would be visible, along with a complete history of changes when in the develop module.

Perhaps there is an issue of viewing files outside of Lightroom, or perhaps the image is in the catalog twice (Not the same file of course, but an image that is close enough that it is selected my mistake?)

I would jump back into the edited image in Lightroom, switch to the develop module and take a peek at the history of edits on the left hand panel first.

That might shed some light on what is happening.

Lightroom History
Lightroom History...

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Dec 22, 2015 13:10:32   #
big-guy Loc: Peterborough Ontario Canada
 
There seems to be a lot of chatter regarding importing and exporting which has nothing to do with the problem stated. The OP has already imported the RAW files and has done post processing on them. Those changes are held in LR (catalog, XMP or DNG) until someone changes them yet again. I have run into the same problem, at least I thought so at the time, but on older, slower, less powerful computers, it may take LR a few seconds or more to catch up with itself and apply the previously made changes. I would invite the OP to click on a single image that has been previously processed and give it some time. I think you will find that LR will eventually catch up.

Regarding learning materials, I would have to agree with the YouTube and Adorama TV links for free and in depth learning. I'm not saying that books are bad, some are excellent, but you get the same content and more from the videos and you save some cash for gas in the process.

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Dec 22, 2015 13:26:05   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
big-guy wrote:
There seems to be a lot of chatter regarding importing and exporting which has nothing to do with the problem stated


This is a pretty broad statement and probably incorrect. The issue the OP refers to seems to indicate they have two folders on his HD with the same images on them, one edited and the other the original files. Most likely a result of importing from a folder on his HD. The OP has not provided enough information for anybody to say for sure what their issue is, we can only guess. You are also making an assumption that the OP has a slow computer, which they never stated so it's as good a guess as any other. However LR does add some text letting you know when it is busy, I think it says something like "Loading" in the middle of the screen.

The issue the OP states just does not happen unless you restore a backup or something similar LR cannot on its own decide to revert to the original unedited photos so more workflow information is really needed to tell what is happening in the background.

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Dec 22, 2015 14:20:26   #
jliane Loc: Washington state
 
Gibar wrote:
This should fix the link that was posted.

http://youtu.be/QSwkDC3q7uk


Who is this presenter?

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Dec 22, 2015 15:15:46   #
big-guy Loc: Peterborough Ontario Canada
 
I beg to differ, you say the problem is with two folders but no where is that evident. Please re-read the OP below,

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"This may be a dumb question but after I do my adjustments to my photos in Lightroom, then close the program and come back later, all my changes have reverted back as they where before. Is there some way to save my work or am I doing something wrong? I shoot all my photos in RAW, so I have something to adjust."


Where does he talk about folders at all? You have taken some of the responses and incorrectly added them to the mix as fact. I agree there is not enough information given but from the little he provides it is clear that there is no problem with importing or exporting. Only holding any edits between sessions. Also, I never said the OP had an old, slow computer but offered a reasonable scenario for the stated problem if he did, based upon the limited information provided and my own experience with several computers. I would invite you and others to carefully read and re-read the posts before responding.

I get a huge kick out of someone asking why the sky is blue and then gets a myriad of responses from the masses here on UHH as to why the grass is green, why falling apples run downhill and my personal favorite, I have no idea about your problem as I don't use anything that you are talking about but this is what I do. Then we end up with 6 pages of spiraling drivel and miss the one entry that actually does answer the question.

Capture48 wrote:
This is a pretty broad statement and probably incorrect. The issue the OP refers to seems to indicate they have two folders on his HD with the same images on them, one edited and the other the original files. Most likely a result of importing from a folder on his HD. The OP has not provided enough information for anybody to say for sure what their issue is, we can only guess. You are also making an assumption that the OP has a slow computer, which they never stated so it's as good a guess as any other. However LR does add some text letting you know when it is busy, I think it says something like "Loading" in the middle of the screen.

The issue the OP states just does not happen unless you restore a backup or something similar LR cannot on its own decide to revert to the original unedited photos so more workflow information is really needed to tell what is happening in the background.
This is a pretty broad statement and probably inco... (show quote)

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Dec 22, 2015 15:34:46   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
big-guy wrote:
I beg to differ, you say the problem is with two folders but no where is that evident. Please re-read the OP below,


Again you make a broad statement that may not be true at all. Since we know it's not possible for LR to decide to revert to an original image on its own accord. A reasonable assumptions is the OP has more than one folder of images. It might also be a catalog issue where they are writing to the catalog but not the sidecar file. They may have more than one catalog with similar names, I could go on and on elaborating on things it could be. There are literally a ton of things it can be including a folder issue. I simply stated one of the issues could be as simple as you are looking at the incorrect folder.

You made a statement that is has nothing to do with folders. When you make a possibly false broad statement like that to support your theory, expect to get challenged on it. You have no way of knowing this since the OP has not provided enough information.

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Dec 22, 2015 16:32:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jliane wrote:
Who is this presenter?

Tim Grey, at the 00:37 point.

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Dec 22, 2015 16:59:29   #
thephotoman Loc: Rochester, NY
 
Ted Liette wrote:
I'm using Lightroom version 5.7 ad I do shoot in RAW. I'm a beginner with Lightroom and I'm trying to figure out why this is happening. I don't know about DNG files or side car files but you are correct when you state "when you reopen Lightroom and look at the image you edited in the Develop module the edits are no longer there?" I'm importing my files from my computer's hard drive. Are you saying that whenever I finish working on my photos, I should export the finished product to another area on my hard drive? I have exported files one at a time but can I export a group of files at one time? I'm sorry but I guess I'm full of questions, and thank you for taking the time to help me out.
I'm using Lightroom version 5.7 ad I do shoot in R... (show quote)


I would suggest you get a good book on LR and study it. Scott Kelby has several good books. Also, URibe has many excellent videos to help you understand LR.

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Dec 22, 2015 17:11:48   #
Ted Liette Loc: Greenville, Ohio
 
mborn wrote:
Where are you importing the photos to when you import from your hard drive


I would like to save them as JPG's to my PC's hard drive in separate folders in case I wanted to have them printed for framing. I just received my first effort at a canvas print from CG ProPrints, and I was thoroughly impressed. But I need to get a back up external hard drive set up.

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Dec 22, 2015 17:14:17   #
Ted Liette Loc: Greenville, Ohio
 
thephotoman wrote:
I would suggest you get a good book on LR and study it. Scott Kelby has several good books. Also, URibe has many excellent videos to help you understand LR.


Thanks' I've been looking at different books on Amazon and Kelby's name keeps popping up.

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Dec 22, 2015 17:19:13   #
Ted Liette Loc: Greenville, Ohio
 
I'm going to have to really do some studying because I keep hearing terms such as "side car file" or "corrupt catalog" and I don't have clue what you're talking about, but everyone has given me a lot to think about. And for that I say thank you.

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