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Dec 20, 2015 23:07:05   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
I own and use the 6D with the new Sigma 24-105mm lens mounted on it. I shoot most all my landscape with this combo. You cannot go wrong with these two for the kind of photography you do.

You might find either the camera or the lens used or refurbished.
steveo52 wrote:
This photography addiction is almost as bad as when i was drinking!! :lol:

Purchased a Canon 70d in May of this year, I was on the fence whether to make the step up to FF with the Canon 6d......after some consideration went with 70d. I like the 70d but am getting the bug for the 6d or maybe a used 5d or 5d Mkii. At the time I figured have 2 EFS lenses including the great 10-22 UWA and the 18-135, so they'd be no use on an FF. Now with GAS I was considering a 24-105L, but when I started pricing a 6d kit seems to me it's the way to go, the lens nets down to a couple hundred $$ less if the 24-105 was purchased separately.

With that said I thought maybe a trade-in to Adorama ( depending on the offer) would be worth going for the 6d kit with 24-105. Or does it make more sense to just buy a used FF 6d, 5d or 5d mk ii. Then there's rumor of a 6d Mk ii. I may not even take the leap to the 6d but need the UHH members as a sounding board. I shoot mainly landscapes, classic car shows and an occasionaly portrait. I do not shoot action sports.
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Dec 21, 2015 06:21:07   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
I do not shoot action sports.[/quote]

I am familiar with GAS. I would attempt to sell the camera via Craigslist before I would trade it in to a camera store. You will get more money, I would use KEH if the Craigslist thing didn't work out.

I have a 70D and use my Canon 24-105 more than any other lens. They are selling on Ebay for less than $600 or you might try the Canon Refurbished web site. Refurbished lenses or cameras have been thoroughly inspected by Canon Techs and carry a 1 year warranty. In fact my 70D is a refurbished body and its terrific. Good luck.

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Dec 21, 2015 08:04:15   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
steveo52 wrote:
This photography addiction is almost as bad as when i was drinking!! :lol:

Purchased a Canon 70d in May of this year, I was on the fence whether to make the step up to FF with the Canon 6d......after some consideration went with 70d. I like the 70d but am getting the bug for the 6d or maybe a used 5d or 5d Mkii. At the time I figured have 2 EFS lenses including the great 10-22 UWA and the 18-135, so they'd be no use on an FF. Now with GAS I was considering a 24-105L, but when I started pricing a 6d kit seems to me it's the way to go, the lens nets down to a couple hundred $$ less if the 24-105 was purchased separately.

With that said I thought maybe a trade-in to Adorama ( depending on the offer) would be worth going for the 6d kit with 24-105. Or does it make more sense to just buy a used FF 6d, 5d or 5d mk ii. Then there's rumor of a 6d Mk ii. I may not even take the leap to the 6d but need the UHH members as a sounding board. I shoot mainly landscapes, classic car shows and an occasionaly portrait. I do not shoot action sports.
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Sell yourself get more money
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Dec 21, 2015 08:10:08   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
steveo52 wrote:
This photography addiction is almost as bad as when i was drinking!! :lol:

Purchased a Canon 70d in May of this year, I was on the fence whether to make the step up to FF with the Canon 6d......after some consideration went with 70d. I like the 70d but am getting the bug for the 6d or maybe a used 5d or 5d Mkii. At the time I figured have 2 EFS lenses including the great 10-22 UWA and the 18-135, so they'd be no use on an FF. Now with GAS I was considering a 24-105L, but when I started pricing a 6d kit seems to me it's the way to go, the lens nets down to a couple hundred $$ less if the 24-105 was purchased separately.

With that said I thought maybe a trade-in to Adorama ( depending on the offer) would be worth going for the 6d kit with 24-105. Or does it make more sense to just buy a used FF 6d, 5d or 5d mk ii. Then there's rumor of a 6d Mk ii. I may not even take the leap to the 6d but need the UHH members as a sounding board. I shoot mainly landscapes, classic car shows and an occasionaly portrait. I do not shoot action sports.
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It's like anything else. You always get more for your equipment selling it yourself. PERIOD, END OF STORY.

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Dec 21, 2015 08:22:40   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
steveo52 wrote:
This photography addiction is almost as bad as when i was drinking!! :lol:

I've gone through an embarrassingly large number of bodies since I discovered UHH. What works best for me is selling an old one on ebay and buying a new one. I try to have two identical - or close - bodies, plus an older one or two.

Check "Sold" prices on ebay to get an idea what people are willing to pay.

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Dec 21, 2015 08:23:59   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
steveo52 wrote:
This photography addiction is almost as bad as when i was drinking!! :lol:

Purchased a Canon 70d in May of this year, I was on the fence whether to make the step up to FF with the Canon 6d......after some consideration went with 70d. I like the 70d but am getting the bug for the 6d or maybe a used 5d or 5d Mkii. At the time I figured have 2 EFS lenses including the great 10-22 UWA and the 18-135, so they'd be no use on an FF. Now with GAS I was considering a 24-105L, but when I started pricing a 6d kit seems to me it's the way to go, the lens nets down to a couple hundred $$ less if the 24-105 was purchased separately.

With that said I thought maybe a trade-in to Adorama ( depending on the offer) would be worth going for the 6d kit with 24-105. Or does it make more sense to just buy a used FF 6d, 5d or 5d mk ii. Then there's rumor of a 6d Mk ii. I may not even take the leap to the 6d but need the UHH members as a sounding board. I shoot mainly landscapes, classic car shows and an occasionaly portrait. I do not shoot action sports.
This photography addiction is almost as bad as wh... (show quote)


I never bought photo stuff when I was drinking. Canon was a client, so I had a great "loan" program. I have a nice F1 plus some lenses that I can't get rid of for sentimental reasons. Now that I don't drink (31 years, 6 months, and 29 days), and have become a Nikon guy, I can spend much more time and money than on simple liquids.

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Dec 21, 2015 08:53:50   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Being sober beats being drunk.

My perusal of the history of photography, now that I think about it, does not mention any drunken photographers. Sots need not apply for this challenging occupation.

I congratulate you on staying sober so long.

Happy Holidays!
NoSocks wrote:
I never bought photo stuff when I was drinking. Canon was a client, so I had a great "loan" program. I have a nice F1 plus some lenses that I can't get rid of for sentimental reasons. Now that I don't drink (31 years, 6 months, and 29 days), and have become a Nikon guy, I can spend much more time and money than on simple liquids.

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Dec 21, 2015 09:24:07   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
steveo52 wrote:
This photography addiction is almost as bad as when i was drinking!! :lol:

Purchased a Canon 70d in May of this year, I was on the fence whether to make the step up to FF with the Canon 6d......after some consideration went with 70d. I like the 70d but am getting the bug for the 6d or maybe a used 5d or 5d Mkii. At the time I figured have 2 EFS lenses including the great 10-22 UWA and the 18-135, so they'd be no use on an FF. Now with GAS I was considering a 24-105L, but when I started pricing a 6d kit seems to me it's the way to go, the lens nets down to a couple hundred $$ less if the 24-105 was purchased separately.

With that said I thought maybe a trade-in to Adorama ( depending on the offer) would be worth going for the 6d kit with 24-105. Or does it make more sense to just buy a used FF 6d, 5d or 5d mk ii. Then there's rumor of a 6d Mk ii. I may not even take the leap to the 6d but need the UHH members as a sounding board. I shoot mainly landscapes, classic car shows and an occasionaly portrait. I do not shoot action sports.
This photography addiction is almost as bad as wh... (show quote)


As for selling, Adorama, or any other business offering cash/credit for your gear will be much less than selling it on your own. Try using the classified section here at UHH. But first see what like bodies are going for on eBay, Amazon, and as used on Adorama, B&H, KEH, and Cameta. Think about how much you would be willing to accept, bottom line, whether or not to include shipping, etc. Good luck with the sale and the new gear, once you decide what to purchase. Since I do not use Canon as my DSLR, I'll let the Canon experts chime in on what would be an excellent choice.

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Dec 21, 2015 09:29:54   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
I have thought about this issue and have a formula. We will use the 40% suggested by davidrb earlier for the trade in discount for this illustration.

T (trade-in value) = MV (market value [what you could sell it for yourself]) * .40
SV (selling value) = MV - AF (aggravation factor)
D (decision value) = SV – T.
If D is a positive number, sell it yourself. If a negative, trade it in.

You need to determine AF yourself.

Let's say you have an old DSLR you could sell for $250.00 and you value your AF to deal with the whole ordeal of posting, selling and shipping is $200.00, then:

T = 250 * .4 or $100
SV = 250 – 200 or $50
D = 50 – 100 = -50 (a negative value) = trade it in.

If you could sell it for $400.00, the results would be:
T = 400 * .4 = 160
SV = 400 – 200 = 200
D = 200 – 160 = +40 (a positive value) = sell it.

The lower your AF the better it is to sell.

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Dec 21, 2015 10:32:22   #
Ranjan Loc: Currently Cyber-Nation!
 
jcboy3 wrote:
That's funny. Drinking has no affect on my photography addiction. In fact, I'm pretty certain I buy more stuff when I'm sober. At least, that's what I recall. But maybe drunk me is hiding stuff from sober me? I'm gonna get me a nanny cam.



Sorry! AfaIk, neither Nikon nor Canon make one of those :(

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Dec 21, 2015 11:49:07   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
dsmeltz wrote:
I have thought about this issue and have a formula. We will use the 40% suggested by davidrb earlier for the trade in discount for this illustration.

T (trade-in value) = MV (market value [what you could sell it for yourself]) * .40
SV (selling value) = MV - AF (aggravation factor)
D (decision value) = SV – T.
If D is a positive number, sell it yourself. If a negative, trade it in.

You need to determine AF yourself.

Let's say you have an old DSLR you could sell for $250.00 and you value your AF to deal with the whole ordeal of posting, selling and shipping is $200.00, then:

T = 250 * .4 or $100
SV = 250 – 200 or $50
D = 50 – 100 = -50 (a negative value) = trade it in.

If you could sell it for $400.00, the results would be:
T = 400 * .4 = 160
SV = 400 – 200 = 200
D = 200 – 160 = +40 (a positive value) = sell it.

The lower your AF the better it is to sell.
I have thought about this issue and have a formula... (show quote)


Boiling the final formula down yields:

D = 0.6MV - AF

As AF is a 'feeling' factor and arbitrary, one can make D + or - to suit one's choice (not well put). What is needed is a way to fix AF in a data driven way beyond 'feelings.'

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Dec 21, 2015 13:11:36   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
John_F wrote:
Boiling the final formula down yields:

D = 0.6MV - AF

As AF is a 'feeling' factor and arbitrary, one can make D + or - to suit one's choice (not well put). What is needed is a way to fix AF in a data driven way beyond 'feelings.'


Actually it still works according to classic decision theory. If you set an arbitrary value for a key variable and then feel the need to adjust it due to the result, you did not set it correctly in the first place. The exercise forces you to examine how you value your time and effort.

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Dec 21, 2015 16:03:27   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
I have sold a number of lenses and camera bodies here on UHH. My usual practice for setting a price is to get on-line estimates from B&H and Adorama as to what they would pay for the item, and then check, if possible, to see what the same item is selling for used on their site. I set my price somewhere in the middle.

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Dec 21, 2015 16:17:39   #
steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida
 
LFingar wrote:
I have sold a number of lenses and camera bodies here on UHH. My usual practice for setting a price is to get on-line estimates from B&H and Adorama as to what they would pay for the item, and then check, if possible, to see what the same item is selling for used on their site. I set my price somewhere in the middle.


I like your style and reasoning 8-)

Well this unfortunately ( at least temporarily) turned out to be an excercise in futility. Had some unexpected van/maintenance repairs today, that would have easily paid for a slightly used 6d body!! OUCH!!! The purchase will have to go on hold.

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Dec 21, 2015 16:40:16   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
dsmeltz wrote:
I have thought about this issue and have a formula. We will use the 40% suggested by davidrb earlier for the trade in discount for this illustration.

T (trade-in value) = MV (market value [what you could sell it for yourself]) * .40
SV (selling value) = MV - AF (aggravation factor)
D (decision value) = SV – T.
If D is a positive number, sell it yourself. If a negative, trade it in.

You need to determine AF yourself.

Let's say you have an old DSLR you could sell for $250.00 and you value your AF to deal with the whole ordeal of posting, selling and shipping is $200.00, then:

T = 250 * .4 or $100
SV = 250 – 200 or $50
D = 50 – 100 = -50 (a negative value) = trade it in.

If you could sell it for $400.00, the results would be:
T = 400 * .4 = 160
SV = 400 – 200 = 200
D = 200 – 160 = +40 (a positive value) = sell it.

The lower your AF the better it is to sell.
I have thought about this issue and have a formula... (show quote)

Well, that certainly is simple enough. Now we need camera accessory makers to start selling calculators with those functions built-in. :D

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