donnahde Loc: Newark, DE

There's sooooo much in this training that I will be watching it over and over. Eventually I may be able to give you the answers you seek but not yet.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

I know over the last year I have learned an awful lot about Photoshop, and my use of it has increased from a casual every now and then from Lightroom to almost daily use of it from Lightroom. I am in no way an expert on Photoshop, but I amaze myself sometimes what I am able to do now that I have spent time using it and watching on line tutorials ....

Always interesting for sure ;)

Good luck!

anotherview Loc: California

LR does not do Layers.

BTW: The topic of LR versus PCC has come up before in this forum, with others listing all the significant differences between these two programs.

donnahde Loc: Newark, DE

I'm very much aware that LR doesn't do layers. I'm wondering why I need LR since Bridge does a much better job of organizing than I was ever given to think it was capable of. Just a conversation. Thanks for jumping in.

anotherview Loc: California

Personally, I have never used LR. I learned the full Photoshop after leaving PSE behind one day -- with a sink-or-swim decision -- and never looked back. I still remember the sense of the power of Photoshop at my fingertips.

I have found PCC (with a few filters) and Bridge do all I need as a still photographer.

donnahde Loc: Newark, DE

Good to know. Thanks.

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

Right On, my thought exactly. I tried bridge but it was not a good organizing tool so I have not even downloaded it

pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY

Unless one has has some experience with a real data base, and I'll define that as something like Excel or Oracle on a larger scale, and the search power(querry's with Boolean and/or/not/etc ) and speed, they likely can't appreciate the DB concept.

Indexing the file explorer internals seems like a poor man's DB.

That said,if one does not have the need to find all the pictures that they took with lens A on Camera B that start with IJK in year NNNN while eating lunch and not at Micky D's, then LR's power will not be advantageous.

Dale40203 Loc: Louisville, KY

When I am handed a collection of photos from a client which will be used in a project, I use Bridge - not Lightroom - to manage them. I don't want to create a catalog for images that I will not maintain longterm, and Bridge gives me access to ACR, batch renaming, EXIF data editing, web and PDF output. From ACR, it's just a button away from sending the file to Photoshop if more editing is required.
The only layer management in Bridge that I am aware of is its ability to send selected files to separate layers within a Photoshop document.

Picdude Loc: Ohio

My thanks to Donna for bringing this thread up and to Don G. for the time he is putting into research on this topic. For myself, I'm very interested to see where this goes.

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

Personally, I use Lightroom to get my photos organized and do most of the adjustments (Lightroom is NON-DESTRUCTIVE) so my images are left as they came out of the camera. Also, in Lightroom, I create a virtual copy of my image which allows me to have two or more of the same image with different adjustments. Once I have made adjustments in Lightroom, I can then move the image with Lightroom adjustments to Photoshop (which is destructive) for additional adjustments or manipulation. The main thing I like about LR over Photoshop is the fact that you can make collections (I have Sunsets, Sunrises, Beach Scenes, Key West, Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, St Augustine, etc. a single photo can be a part of multiple collections.. for instance, Sunrise, Beach Scene, Miami. ) This makes cataloging images very easy. In addition, I use the mapping program to map the general areas the photos were taken. This gives me the ability to go to St. Petersburg on the map or Key West and see all of the shots that I took in that one location or even look at shots that I took near there.. for instance I can move up the map from Key West to Marathon etc. This makes going back a year later to pull shots very easy. I don't have to remember a date or time, I can see all of the photos that I took in that area.

donnahde Loc: Newark, DE

But you CAN search like that in Bridge.

pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY

yes, yes, yes, yes......

The non destructive nature of LR is the power - A SINGLE SOURCE file. I know disk space is cheap but having to keep multi copies of a source file for preservation is a waste of time and resources. In my eyes that is a game changer.

donnahde Loc: Newark, DE

Not sure about that. The PS instructor has repeatedly said that the PS processes are non-destructive. And on the RARE instance where it's not he tells us it's not and shows a way to do it so it is non-destructive.

twillsol Loc: St. Louis, MO

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