Arizona Range War
Aug 7, 2015 14:39:37 #
Aug 7, 2015 14:41:22 #
sb wrote:
Wolves are a native specie and help regulate populations of deer, skunks, snakes, possum, and raccoons. Studies have shown that when wolf and coyote populations decline the bird population declines due to increased nest predation by snakes, raccoons, etc. Horses are an invasive specie, and that is why the discussions about moving them.
And oh yes - great photos.
And oh yes - great photos.
That makes sense sb. I love the Horses but it always amazes me how fast folks criticize the Government without knowing facts. The real enemy of folks are big corporations but they own the politicians who than blame Government for all evils! The Photos are great, thanks for sharing.
Aug 7, 2015 19:27:20 #
First off, absolutely beautiful images. As to your question, I don't understand how they are threatening the public's safety. So do the Bison who roam Yellowstone National Park, if people are stupid or ignorant of the fact that they are WILD animals, and yet I don't see the boobs in DC wanting to remove the Bison.
It's a crazy world we live in these days. I say, let the horses continue in peace. And people traveling in the area just to be informed and advised that, "hey, there are many wild horses in the area, do not approach them on foot, keep your distance and be aware they are present even if you can't see them." Do not try and feed them apples and carrots...
Common sense right?
It's a crazy world we live in these days. I say, let the horses continue in peace. And people traveling in the area just to be informed and advised that, "hey, there are many wild horses in the area, do not approach them on foot, keep your distance and be aware they are present even if you can't see them." Do not try and feed them apples and carrots...
Common sense right?
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Aug 7, 2015 19:41:09 #
jim hill
Loc: Springfield, IL
sb wrote:
Wolves are a native specie and help regulate populations of deer, skunks, snakes, possum, and raccoons. Studies have shown that when wolf and coyote populations decline the bird population declines due to increased nest predation by snakes, raccoons, etc. Horses are an invasive specie, and that is why the discussions about moving them.
And oh yes - great photos.
And oh yes - great photos.
Love the photographs.
I guess that makes two invasive specie. Remove them both and let the wilderness thrive.
Aug 7, 2015 21:16:09 #
This is an old topic in No Western Nevada - system that seems
to work is thin the herds through "round up and adoption " plans.
Folks are sooooo sympathetic of these wild animals as the folks of the USA seem to have forgotten horse meat has been a staple of other parts of the world seance time began. And was in many places here in days of the older generations that immigrated.
Horses were known to the Pioneers & Native Indians as "Sweet Elk"
These horses no longer have their "Enemies" - the cow boy and horse traders are gone, the Mountain Lion is thinned out - hungry farmer/rancher or towns person needing meat are gone too.
To thin herds of other wild animals they increase the bag limit, trap, relocate and adopt out like in NV - it works there why not AZ..
to work is thin the herds through "round up and adoption " plans.
Folks are sooooo sympathetic of these wild animals as the folks of the USA seem to have forgotten horse meat has been a staple of other parts of the world seance time began. And was in many places here in days of the older generations that immigrated.
Horses were known to the Pioneers & Native Indians as "Sweet Elk"
These horses no longer have their "Enemies" - the cow boy and horse traders are gone, the Mountain Lion is thinned out - hungry farmer/rancher or towns person needing meat are gone too.
To thin herds of other wild animals they increase the bag limit, trap, relocate and adopt out like in NV - it works there why not AZ..
Aug 7, 2015 21:21:33 #
What do you think? Should they "go" or "stay"?
Who, the people? Probably they should go. :)
Who, the people? Probably they should go. :)
Aug 7, 2015 22:01:52 #
cmc65 wrote:
Get rid of the people and leave the horses to their land.
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Aug 8, 2015 00:43:34 #
With all of the wild fires, it is hard for me to see wild horses as a threat.
Aug 8, 2015 01:42:51 #
These are beautiful photos. Just another example of "Big Brother" encroaching there he is not wanted.
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Aug 8, 2015 17:47:59 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
As of yesterday, the proposed carnage has been stopped thanks to 110,000 signature petition and a few activists who cared. What was so amazing is how many government agencies slowed, stopped, back-pedaled and finger pointed to avoid bad publicity. It appears the Forest Service will be the wild goat on this one. lol
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